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atos ringing tomorrow after 1 day sick
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smurfet
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atos ringing tomorrow after 1 day sick
had accident at work {see previous post} now my manager says atos are going to ring me tomorrow i have a sick note for 1 week and only been off 1 day, already feel harrased. is this normal after accident at work
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DOM
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Re: atos ringing tomorrow after 1 day sick
I would say receiving support from ATOS after just one day sick is a good thing.smurfet wrote:had accident at work {see previous post} now my manager says atos are going to ring me tomorrow i have a sick note for 1 week and only been off 1 day, already feel harrased. is this normal after accident at work
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daveallum
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Re: atos ringing tomorrow after 1 day sick
I'm leaving tomorrow under IHR and all I can say is that Atos were brilliant even asking for a second opinion on my left knee which has resulted in me needing a full knee replacement much sooner than my doctor and I envisaged.smurfet wrote:had accident at work {see previous post} now my manager says atos are going to ring me tomorrow i have a sick note for 1 week and only been off 1 day, already feel harrased. is this normal after accident at work
I know my case wasn't an accident but you may find that Atos contacting you so soon may well work to your benefit.
Anyway,all the best.
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demon
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Re: atos ringing tomorrow after 1 day sick
yeah they were great with me to i just told them what had happened and if they could ring me back in a few weeks when i could tell them some more info when i found it out of me doctor
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fishtank
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Re: atos ringing tomorrow after 1 day sick
ATOS is a very expensive resource to use after one day sick.DOM wrote:I would say receiving support from ATOS after just one day sick is a good thing.smurfet wrote:had accident at work {see previous post} now my manager says atos are going to ring me tomorrow i have a sick note for 1 week and only been off 1 day, already feel harrased. is this normal after accident at work
Have managers lost the ability and remit to manage sick absence themselves?
Perhaps a discussion with the employee to determine whether they felt support was needed would have had the dual effect of engaging the employee in the process and potentially saving a costly and unnecessary referral.
Unless,of course there is a darker reason behind such early and constant referrals to ATOS?
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smurfet
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Re: atos ringing tomorrow after 1 day sick
darker reason like whatfishtank wrote:ATOS is a very expensive resource to use after one day sick.DOM wrote:I would say receiving support from ATOS after just one day sick is a good thing.smurfet wrote:had accident at work {see previous post} now my manager says atos are going to ring me tomorrow i have a sick note for 1 week and only been off 1 day, already feel harrased. is this normal after accident at work
Have managers lost the ability and remit to manage sick absence themselves?
Perhaps a discussion with the employee to determine whether they felt support was needed would have had the dual effect of engaging the employee in the process and potentially saving a costly and unnecessary referral.
Unless,of course there is a darker reason behind such early and constant referrals to ATOS?
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fishtank
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Re: atos ringing tomorrow after 1 day sick
Not particularly in your case smurf but there has been a huge increase in IHR dismissals over the past 3-5 years.smurfet wrote:darker reason like what
It would seem that this,along with conduct dismissals is Royal Mail's preferred method of streamlining the business.
It's much cheaper than MTSF,you are not tied to justifying the reduction in headcount and without the need to worry about seniority it's much easier to target and get rid of those problem cases that might require "reasonable adjustments" in the future.
Just an opinion.
ATOS seem to be an absolute pleasure to deal with if your intention is to leave the business,if you want to stay....not so much.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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daveallum
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Re: atos ringing tomorrow after 1 day sick
I couldn't agree more,but in my case Atos were very good and due to the condition of my knee and plus the fact I'm rapidly approaching 60 IHR was the ideal option and I am happy with the outcome.fishtank wrote:Not particularly in your case smurf but there has been a huge increase in IHR dismissals over the past 3-5 years.smurfet wrote:darker reason like what
It would seem that this,along with conduct dismissals is Royal Mail's preferred method of streamlining the business.
It's much cheaper than MTSF,you are not tied to justifying the reduction in headcount and without the need to worry about seniority it's much easier to target and get rid of those problem cases that might require "reasonable adjustments" in the future.
Just an opinion.![]()
ATOS seem to be an absolute pleasure to deal with if your intention is to leave the business,if you want to stay....not so much.
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Himaggen
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Re: atos ringing tomorrow after 1 day sick
If you have not completed/signed the appropriate consent form then your Manager cannot refer you to ATOS.
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DOM
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Re: atos ringing tomorrow after 1 day sick
You are correct permission is required but only verbal now not a signed consent as it used to be.Himaggen wrote:If you have not completed/signed the appropriate consent form then your Manager cannot refer you to ATOS.
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fishtank
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Re: atos ringing tomorrow after 1 day sick
Indeed Himaggen...it's called requesting informed consent and it even applies to telephone "consultations".Himaggen wrote:If you have not completed/signed the appropriate consent form then your Manager cannot refer you to ATOS.
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Himaggen
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Re: atos ringing tomorrow after 1 day sick
If this is true, which seems ridiculous in the current climate of privacy laws, inform anyone who calls claiming to be from ATOS that you have not consented to them being in possession of your information and you will be taking appropriate action.DOM wrote:permission is required but only verbal now not a signed consent as it used to be.
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fishtank
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Re: atos ringing tomorrow after 1 day sick
Verbal consent would help neither party opening up managers to bogus accusations of lying and opening staff up to...lying managers.Himaggen wrote:If this is true, which seems ridiculous in the current climate of privacy laws, inform anyone who calls claiming to be from ATOS that you have not consented to them being in possession of your information and you will be taking appropriate action.
It benefits no-one and if a member was willing to give verbal consent they would be willing to tick 4 boxes and sign it so i agree...it sounds ridiculous enough to be true.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share