Crewe D.O on strike?

[ghostgirl]

Hi,
Heard Crewe D.O are on strike, anyone know how true this is and why?

[hans solo]

if true

[anTi]

We were within a cats whisker of this a week ago. Rep was close to being outed for inciting industrial action. Reason being the whole P&L and the uncooperative nature of the Blue shirts who work there.

[DB1100]

We were within a cats whisker of this a week ago. Rep was close to being outed for inciting industrial action. Reason being the whole P&L and the uncooperative nature of the Blue shirts who work there.

I think we are very close,members being threatened with the sack for underperforming,being took off their walks,people in tears and still people coming in up to 2 hrs early,not using trolleys.

[arnold cheshire]

Hi,
Heard Crewe D.O are on strike, anyone know how true this is and why?

so no crewe posties on here then very popular in south cheshire is this website

[scoobydo79]

All been sacked for unofficial industrial action ?

[celerycelery]

We were within a cats whisker of this a week ago. Rep was close to being outed for inciting industrial action. Reason being the whole P&L and the uncooperative nature of the Blue shirts who work there.

Where does the rep stand when staff do walk out? Can they just walk out with them or can that get them into a lot of trouble?

[robd]

We were within a cats whisker of this a week ago. Rep was close to being outed for inciting industrial action. Reason being the whole P&L and the uncooperative nature of the Blue shirts who work there.

Where does the rep stand when staff do walk out? Can they just walk out with them or can that get them into a lot of trouble?

If the action is lawful,and notice is served to the employer,then the rep can officially picket/walk out,however,if the action taken by members is 'un-official' and they simply walk out,then the rep cannot be seen to support this action,and as such should continue to make themselves available to work,whilst be seen to encourage the members to return to duty,whilst also attempting to rectify the problem.

[fishtank]

if the action taken by members is 'un-official' and they simply walk out,then the rep cannot be seen to support this action,and as such should continue to make themselves available to work,whilst be seen to encourage the members to return to duty,whilst also attempting to rectify the problem.

No offence rob but.....WTF?
A rep that doesn't walk with his/her members isn't a rep....and certainly wouldn't be for long.
Anyone at branch or HQ understands that.
I've been out on both official and unofficial and quite frankly would not give a f**k what branch or HQ had to say about it anyway.
First and foremost you represent your members.
Yes you should always be ready to negotiate,but always beside your members rob.

[robd]

if the action taken by members is 'un-official' and they simply walk out,then the rep cannot be seen to support this action,and as such should continue to make themselves available to work,whilst be seen to encourage the members to return to duty,whilst also attempting to rectify the problem.

No offence rob but.....WTF?
A rep that doesn't walk with his/her members isn't a rep....and certainly wouldn't be for long.
Anyone at branch or HQ understands that.
I've been out on both official and unofficial and quite frankly would not give a f**k what branch or HQ had to say about it anyway.
First and foremost you represent your members.
Yes you should always be ready to negotiate,but always beside your members rob.

No offence taken
But we have held unofficial action on several occasions,and we have been left with no alternative but to simply walk out...we recognised that the rep cannot be seen to endorse such action,so its simply about supporting a good rep as much as the rep supporting us...he/she shouldn't have to walk out just to prove it and why give the employer a good opportunity to get rid of the glue that binds us...they can't represent us from the dole queue

[fishtank]

we recognised that the rep cannot be seen to endorse such action,so its simply about supporting a good rep as much as the rep supporting us...he/she shouldn't have to walk out just to prove it and why give the employer a good opportunity to get rid of the glue that binds us...they can't represent us from the dole queue

What makes you think that a rep's job is any more at risk from simply taking unofficial action than an ordinary member?
I think someone has spun you a line rob.
CWU reps have a guarantee of parity of treatment with other members of staff as far as conduct is concerned.
Royal Mail's usual response is the removal of pre-scheduled release as paid release should never be used to promote industrial action.
More serious conduct cases surrounding industrial action usually involve allegations of bullying or anything else management can dream up.

I have never met a rep who would dream of agreeing to work during industrial action, official or otherwise...i hope i never do,it's a cop out and a hell of a message to send out to the strike breakers.
He/she would have to cross a picket line,something i have never done and couldn't do and work alongside non strikers and take home pay that others were forfeiting.
The whole thing leaves me feeling queasy and i can tell you if a rep even suggested it at my place they would be an ex-rep by the time the members hit the gate.

[robd]

Interesting,these situations are never so cut and dry,and many of us recognise that having to walk out is because we have been left with no alternative(after every/or little negotiation has taken place)
But it depends how you interpret it,i mean,as a matter of principle,then yes it would be good for the rep to support it and join you,but what i don't understand is,if the CWU rep supports/endorses it,how is it then deemed to be un-official?
Who would the employer look to charge for inciting such action me or the rep

[fishtank]

if the CWU rep supports/endorses it,how is it then deemed to be un-official?

Rule 13 section 2 CWU Rulebook.
For the avoidance of doubt it is confirmed that nothing contained in these Rules
empowers a Branch or any other person, committee, group or body of persons to
authorise, endorse, call or take industrial action without there being a statutory ballot
and compliance in all other respects with the requirements of Part V of the Trade
Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 1992 as amended or replaced from
time to time.

That's what makes a walkout unofficial.
No ballot and no formal notice to the employer.

The only difference between official action and unofficial action is the union's liability.
That's why a rep should try to avoid it if possible and why branch will try to resolve it as quick as possible but the rep's place is beside his/her members...how else can he/she try to talk the members into going back in.

[fishtank]

Who would the employer look to charge for inciting such action me or the rep

Unless someone was blatantly handing out "let's go on strike" flyers...no-one.
Walkouts are by their nature usually spontaneous and when they aren't...it would be silly to advertise the fact.
You need to be a bit careful that's all.

[robd]

if the CWU rep supports/endorses it,how is it then deemed to be un-official?

Rule 13 section 2 CWU Rulebook.
For the avoidance of doubt it is confirmed that nothing contained in these Rules
empowers a Branch or any other person, committee, group or body of persons to
authorise, endorse, call or take industrial action without there being a statutory ballot
and compliance in all other respects with the requirements of Part V of the Trade
Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 1992 as amended or replaced from
time to time.

That's what makes a walkout unofficial.
No ballot and no formal notice to the employer.

The only difference between official action and unofficial action is the union's liability.
That's why a rep should try to avoid it if possible and why branch will try to resolve it as quick as possible but the rep's place is beside his/her members...how else can he/she try to talk the members into going back in.

LOL...i take your point,the reps only out there to encourage you back in