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Open doors/Dog attacks.

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Pat Ostman
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Open doors/Dog attacks.

Post by Pat Ostman »

What is the official line for reserves, even regulars (who know the round), with customers leaving front doors open. I remember reading once that if a front door is 'open' and you do not know if a dog resides there you should not attempt delivery. Due to this heat I have noticed large amounts of doors just being left open to try and cool down the house more. If I followed this procedure on an unfamiliar round I would be taking half the mail back.

Makes a mockery of the dog pegs.
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Re: Open doors/Dog attacks.

Post by dvbuk55 »

I was delivering to a house, who always had the front door open, for a number of years - they had a little jack russell who always ran up the garden and rolled over and made a fuss until the day he ran up the garden and bit me :shock:
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Re: Open doors/Dog attacks.

Post by mondeoman1 »

Don't go in if you are not sure.

If you are attacked by a dog and RM find out the door was open they would deem that you were at fault for going in.

I've had a couple of instances where I have had to run like feck for the gate so I don't go in anymore if door is open.

I rattle the gate and shout post if I get no answer I just endorse the mail. :wave :wave
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Re: Open doors/Dog attacks.

Post by Pat Ostman »

mondeoman1 wrote:Don't go in if you are not sure.

If you are attacked by a dog and RM find out the door was open they would deem that you were at fault for going in.

I've had a couple of instances where I have had to run like feck for the gate so I don't go in anymore if door is open.

I rattle the gate and shout post if I get no answer I just endorse the mail. :wave :wave
I would be taking a lot of mail back.
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Re: Open doors/Dog attacks.

Post by DGP1 »

Pat Ostman wrote:
mondeoman1 wrote:Don't go in if you are not sure.

If you are attacked by a dog and RM find out the door was open they would deem that you were at fault for going in.

I've had a couple of instances where I have had to run like feck for the gate so I don't go in anymore if door is open.

I rattle the gate and shout post if I get no answer I just endorse the mail. :wave :wave
I would be taking a lot of mail back.
Well then, take a lot back :Very Happy mondeoman man is quite correct, follow his advice and use RM owns H&S policy against them :Very Happy :Very Happy :Very Happy
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Re: Open doors/Dog attacks.

Post by argyllflyer »

Pat Ostman wrote:What is the official line for reserves, even regulars (who know the round), with customers leaving front doors open. I remember reading once that if a front door is 'open' and you do not know if a dog resides there you should not attempt delivery. Due to this heat I have noticed large amounts of doors just being left open to try and cool down the house more. If I followed this procedure on an unfamiliar round I would be taking half the mail back.

Makes a mockery of the dog pegs.
All dogs on the round should be logged in the walk risk assessment and dog warning stickers used, so I would insist that the walk log is kept upto date for starters
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Re: Open doors/Dog attacks.

Post by Pat Ostman »

I discussed this issue with the Lino who said don't go in if the door is open and you KNOW there is a dog at that house. Obviously suggesting not to bring it back if no dog resides there. The problem obviously is visitors and people bringing home a pet for the first time.

Just making sure I am covered if I bring it back AND there is no dog warnings in the logbook.
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Re: Open doors/Dog attacks.

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argyllflyer wrote:
All dogs on the round should be logged in the walk risk assessment and dog warning stickers used, so I would insist that the walk log is kept upto date for starters
I counted the dogs on my duty....................over 300 :nana :nana :nana that's going to be a hell of a lot dog stickers :chuckle :chuckle :chuckle
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Pat Ostman
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Re: Open doors/Dog attacks.

Post by Pat Ostman »

Yes, only 'troublesome' dogs are listed. But they are only troublesome AFTER the fact.
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Re: Open doors/Dog attacks.

Post by DGP1 »

Pat Ostman wrote:Yes, only 'troublesome' dogs are listed. But they are only troublesome AFTER the fact.
I think you'll find that ALL dogs are to be recorded these days :chuckle
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Re: Open doors/Dog attacks.

Post by Darren Bent »

Another problem is if there is more than several dogs it will be hard to remember them all. I don't like hot weather due to more doors being open and it make people more sloppy with dogs. Another brilliant idea of us starting at 7am rather than 5am :cuppa
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Re: Open doors/Dog attacks.

Post by chelseachris »

Darren Bent wrote:Another problem is if there is more than several dogs it will be hard to remember them all. I don't like hot weather due to more doors being open and it make people more sloppy with dogs. Another brilliant idea of us starting at 7am rather than 5am :cuppa
You are lucky 8.12am for us nowadays. :crazy:
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Re: Open doors/Dog attacks.

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Darren Bent wrote:Another problem is if there is more than several dogs it will be hard to remember them all. :cuppa
Image the first letter for every known dog. I do it every day - only bit once in 7 years and that was a customers fault not mine. Let the dogs out while signing for something.
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Re: Open doors/Dog attacks.

Post by archy »

Had one recently the dog which is one of those huge ones a meter tall comes running out and then chases in loops around me down the road, I didn't even enter the property, it didn't bite but I thought it was close.

Then a week later and it does the same thing but just pretends to attack while the owner tries to call it back and I couldn't see the point in turning my back to it again.

Do i stand a better chance legally If i stay off the property, can't really avoid it but someone on here said in Scotland they have different legal rules about private property and dogs, and it hasn't done anything physical yet plus it's a rich area so they wouldn't take it kindly being told to control their dog. It looks harmless but it is out of control on what I think is a public road (might be private) and If my kids were around i'd probably have reported it to the police, as a postman it's going to be more confrontational.
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Re: Open doors/Dog attacks.

Post by Pat Ostman »

If the owner does not control the dog then you have every right not to deliver. If they want to keep their doors open then they must control their pet. Simple as.

The next time it might not pretend.
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