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Glasgow summer lapsing

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Our office is currently summer lasping because according to the dom the Glasgow union has a verbal agreement with the sector manger that we can lapse during summer traffic levels. (A colleague asked the dom to see the agreement but was told it was only agreed verbally)

We are currently in week 13 of p&l and have numerous part time staff coming in early on overtime and working days off to ensure that lapsing takes place every day. This infuriates me because we have roughly 35/65 ratio of full time to part time so there is plently of work for us to do yet they pay out vast amounts of overtime just to get us to lapse. :crazy:
A few of us cut off at our time but most people just work past there time as they don't want the confrontation with the dom.

This is the 4th week we have been lapsing for, the first week we lapsed we were told we had to lapse as it was an uso issue but this turned into summer traffic level lasping since our rep went off on holiday although i don't think he will be too bothered as it's his duty we are lapsing. :silenced
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Re: Glasgow summer lapsing

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the idea of lapsing is because we dont have enough work to take us up to our correct finishing time. thus we lapse to give us enough work so we do finish at our correct time. if he has people coming in early and/or working their days off to achieve this, then its a total paradox and the whole lapsing scenario is utter bullshit,,,,,which we all know it is :Very Happy
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Re: Glasgow summer lapsing

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we lapse a duty on a tuesday

everyone takes 20 calls, so 10 mins of work and still an early finish :shock:

Also if its lighter any other day, we may lapse a little off the IPS, say two men 5-6 hours, who then prep a PT duty instead, saving prep time.

it works as long as managers dont take the piss.

It doesnt work once busy, and or if the DSM is a prick :dance
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Re: Glasgow summer lapsing

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If you have the time then do it, if not then don't do it.


Plus, you could always tell him that without sun then it's not summer :nervous
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Re: Glasgow summer lapsing

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DGP1 wrote:If you have the time then do it, if not then don't do it.


Plus, you could always tell him that without sun then it's not summer :nervous
its glasgow, they dont get the sun in the summer, the rain is just slightly warmer
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Re: Glasgow summer lapsing

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The West of Scotland is a joke with P&L,
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Re: Glasgow summer lapsing

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DGP1 wrote:If you have the time then do it, if not then don't do it.
The problem is not whether you have time to do it.....but whether they should be making time for you to do it by paying part-timers overtime.
They are over-supporting the indoor operation to support outdoor lapsing opportunities that wouldn't otherwise exist.

Are they doing this to allow extra holidays/extra Saturdays off etc?
Or are they doing it to support staff shortages in the office or in the sector?
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Re: Glasgow summer lapsing

Post by argyllflyer »

cinemasaint wrote:The West of Scotland is a joke with P&L,
thats an understatement over here in dunoon its not really park and loop anymore, its drop off one postie and leave hime to it and drop off his bags at the old drop off points!! some of them are still not secure! little email to moya might be forthcomming!

and from what i hear the rest of pa is turning out the same, area rep completely in with dsm, and branch completely in with managers in mail centre as they like their full time release too much from what i hear!
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Re: Glasgow summer lapsing

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clashcityrocker wrote:
DGP1 wrote:If you have the time then do it, if not then don't do it.
The problem is not whether you have time to do it.....but whether they should be making time for you to do it by paying part-timers overtime.
They are over-supporting the indoor operation to support outdoor lapsing opportunities that wouldn't otherwise exist.

Are they doing this to allow extra holidays/extra Saturdays off etc?
Or are they doing it to support staff shortages in the office or in the sector?
Staff shortages, we're not even allowed our full compliment of people off in the summer these days, still, mustn't complain, I'll get mine in the winter...................when it'll be dry and sunny :hmmmm
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Re: Glasgow summer lapsing

Post by venom »

DGP1 wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
DGP1 wrote:If you have the time then do it, if not then don't do it.
The problem is not whether you have time to do it.....but whether they should be making time for you to do it by paying part-timers overtime.
They are over-supporting the indoor operation to support outdoor lapsing opportunities that wouldn't otherwise exist.

Are they doing this to allow extra holidays/extra Saturdays off etc?
Or are they doing it to support staff shortages in the office or in the sector?
Staff shortages, we're not even allowed our full compliment of people off in the summer these days, still, mustn't complain, I'll get mine in the winter...................when it'll be dry and sunny :hmmmm
same in our office so the sick is through the roof and everyone still got leave so its going to bite them on the arse soon :Very Happy
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Grass,tell Moya, justsayit@royalmail.com,be prepared to say what office it is though.
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Re: Glasgow summer lapsing

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They are not lasping to allow extra holidays or Saturdays off. Plently of folk still have anual leave from last year to take, me included.
The sick level was high the first few weeks of p&l but now there is usually 1 or 2 spare bodies each day (apart from Saturdays of course :shock: ) to clear the cut-offs or parcels that the hct don't take out, but the reason we usually have spare bodies is that staff are working there days off.

I think i'll send Moya an email now.
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Re: Glasgow summer lapsing

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mandelsons_toenail wrote:we lapse a duty on a tuesday

everyone takes 20 calls, so 10 mins of work and still an early finish :shock:

Also if its lighter any other day, we may lapse a little off the IPS, say two men 5-6 hours, who then prep a PT duty instead, saving prep time.

it works as long as managers dont take the piss.

It doesnt work once busy, and or if the DSM is a prick :dance

our office lapses 8 duties on a Tuesday.......
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Re: Glasgow summer lapsing

Post by haddie »

20 calls lapsing- heaven!. i work in small rural office and we get 3 or 4 streets to cover on lapse.