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Can you trust planners?

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deanomac83
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Can you trust planners?

Post by deanomac83 »

So, planners in and all current rounds are being re-timed. Anyway, it would seem the crafty sods have timed a duty using a CYCLE :no no Why? We will be using LWT on the new rounds. So basically the duty time on the computer is one hour less than it should be!!
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Post by POSTMAN »

Withdraw cooperation,tell them to feck off,walk,ballot,or whatever floats your boat.
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Phantom
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Yep, leave them to it like we did and they'll f**k up. We're in a right mess but no one will help them in anyway so all good here :Very Happy
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Post by halfull »

NO!!! lying toerags! they are there to cut jobs & make jobs huge! :mad :arrrghhh
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Post by Brandy »

No , need I say more :mad
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Re: Can you trust planners?

Post by Almighty1 »

You've answered your own question.

Our revision has been rushed through and completely balls'd up. No cooperation from the union, but this works in their favour, so now they Can do what they want and as mentioned before they have an answer for everything!
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If you're going to withdraw co-operation you have be prepared to back it up with action even if that is without the support of your branch otherwise they will carry on regardless and you will get royally screwed over.
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In my office the planners were, how can i put it, a tad over zealous with their magnificent ideas. We voted it out, twice, but it was still implemented. It is chaos.....
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fishtank wrote:If you're going to withdraw co-operation you have be prepared to back it up with action even if that is without the support of your branch otherwise they will carry on regardless and you will get royally screwed over.
Well we didn't help and we're cutting off left, right and centre - we've had 9 managers in the last 6 months trying to sort it out and still they fail cos no one will help, we are all doing less work than we did before so we're not prepared to do anything to help. The CWU should never, ever agreed to this s**t way of (not)working.
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Phantom wrote:
fishtank wrote:If you're going to withdraw co-operation you have be prepared to back it up with action even if that is without the support of your branch otherwise they will carry on regardless and you will get royally screwed over.
Well we didn't help and we're cutting off left, right and centre - we've had 9 managers in the last 6 months trying to sort it out and still they fail cos no one will help, we are all doing less work than we did before so we're not prepared to do anything to help.
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DirtyHarry
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Re: Can you trust planners?

Post by DirtyHarry »

Can you trust planners?

Well, you can trust planners to plan duties for you and your colleagues, that they themselves would run a million miles away from. :cuppa
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Re: Can you trust planners?

Post by pants123 »

no, planners are there to make your life hell on earth,,,its as simple as that.
specialkev
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Re: Can you trust planners?

Post by specialkev »

We having major probs in our office bringing in the van share.Tried 3 times i think now,going on over a year and still no joy.Funny how they doing mail counts last week when its nice and quiet in the summer!
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Re: Can you trust planners?

Post by IloveMYredTROLLEY! »

With revised HCT duties, don't forget that weight is off the shoulder, which means every packet is in the HCT. Time will be needed to find keys; unlock trolley; locate every packet; lock trolley; check trolley is locked before walking to the delivery point.

When we had the pre-P&L packet counts going on, all they wanted to know was attendence packets that needed a knock at the door (or a signature for Recorded/Specials). On HCT walks that have a lot of non-attendence packets too, the above was highlighted as a big factor in why the delivery span was going way over, they simply were not accounted for in the planning.

As the saying goes, garbage in garbage out.
borgpicard
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Re: Can you trust planners?

Post by borgpicard »

Errrr in a word........NO :so there