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Indoor Flow
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Stormproof
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Indoor Flow
Can somebody explain 'Indoor Flow' in a simple easy to understand format?
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets
Illegitimi non carborundum
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets
Illegitimi non carborundum
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fishtank
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Re: Indoor Flow
Redesigning your office layout and working practices to remove inefficiencies and unsafe acts.
That's the simple answer.
This is the complicated answer....
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That's the simple answer.
This is the complicated answer....
http://www.cwu.org/indoor-work-method-guidance.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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woofwoof
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- Location: stinky land
Re: Indoor Flow
porters & sorters saves time on walking around the office clearing down mail leading to super sorters
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dvbuk55
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Re: Indoor Flow
Well in our case it was out with the old and in with the new in a weekend with contractors in to do the moving. So Monday morning and the office has new backless frames with space behind for the little trolleys to collect the mail in trays for the porters - what we didn't have was porters. So it's new frames same old sorters, no porters and preppers collect the mail from either the front or the back depending on preference...............so to sum up - a total waste of time and money.
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centenaryman
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Re: Indoor Flow
were supposed to me `doing this` sometime soon,,,,,keeps getting put back,,,frames on order they say
at the moment from 6am were lucky to have enough full timers to have more than 2 on the ips
this new idea,,,,is supposed to give us 6 on ips,,,2 on packets,,,and 2 porters
never being bright at maths at school there body count is alittle bit out
btw this is in an office of about 45 duties
but ive said similar to them in charge and WILL be the 1st to appolgise if im wrong when it finally comes in
at the moment from 6am were lucky to have enough full timers to have more than 2 on the ips
this new idea,,,,is supposed to give us 6 on ips,,,2 on packets,,,and 2 porters
never being bright at maths at school there body count is alittle bit out
btw this is in an office of about 45 duties
but ive said similar to them in charge and WILL be the 1st to appolgise if im wrong when it finally comes in
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hans solo
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Re: Indoor Flow
we are the same now we have 2 sections in the office meant to be 2 porters each sectiondvbuk55 wrote:Well in our case it was out with the old and in with the new in a weekend with contractors in to do the moving. So Monday morning and the office has new backless frames with space behind for the little trolleys to collect the mail in trays for the porters - what we didn't have was porters. So it's new frames same old sorters, no porters and preppers collect the mail from either the front or the back depending on preference...............so to sum up - a total waste of time and money.
now its one pt porter per section which is done on pt overtime
mgmt do not have them in at same time as sorters
sat no one to porter guy slept in
sweat pours off you all the time trying to keep all duties going during duties have actually seen people jogging round with trolly
we have reported it being too much for one man to cope with
still waiting on solutions
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DGP1
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Re: Indoor Flow
That seems about right, piss up in a brewery springs to mind.hans solo wrote:we are the same now we have 2 sections in the office meant to be 2 porters each sectiondvbuk55 wrote:Well in our case it was out with the old and in with the new in a weekend with contractors in to do the moving. So Monday morning and the office has new backless frames with space behind for the little trolleys to collect the mail in trays for the porters - what we didn't have was porters. So it's new frames same old sorters, no porters and preppers collect the mail from either the front or the back depending on preference...............so to sum up - a total waste of time and money.
now its one pt porter per section which is done on pt overtimewhen they actually start
mgmt do not have them in at same time as sorters
sat no one to porter guy slept in
sweat pours off you all the time trying to keep all duties going during duties have actually seen people jogging round with trolly
we have reported it being too much for one man to cope with
still waiting on solutions
I'm preparing myself for the zombie invasion, rule number 1 - Cardio
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dvbuk55
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: Indoor Flow
How about a cattle prod hansDGP1 wrote:That seems about right, piss up in a brewery springs to mind.hans solo wrote:we are the same now we have 2 sections in the office meant to be 2 porters each sectiondvbuk55 wrote:Well in our case it was out with the old and in with the new in a weekend with contractors in to do the moving. So Monday morning and the office has new backless frames with space behind for the little trolleys to collect the mail in trays for the porters - what we didn't have was porters. So it's new frames same old sorters, no porters and preppers collect the mail from either the front or the back depending on preference...............so to sum up - a total waste of time and money.
now its one pt porter per section which is done on pt overtimewhen they actually start
mgmt do not have them in at same time as sorters
sat no one to porter guy slept in
sweat pours off you all the time trying to keep all duties going during duties have actually seen people jogging round with trolly
we have reported it being too much for one man to cope with
still waiting on solutions
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hans solo
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Re: Indoor Flow
how may duties do you prep start time 6am we are expected to prep 2 duties and our own to completion
3 full duties and they give us 40 min for each
3 full duties and they give us 40 min for each
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General Mannerheim
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- Location: Stalag 17
Re: Indoor Flow
Porters and sorters WTF?
It sounds like some sort of knightmare knobby upstairs,downstairs cheese fest.
It sounds like some sort of knightmare knobby upstairs,downstairs cheese fest.
Royal Mail managers.....about as popular as a t.urd in a swimming pool!
The DDA/Equality Act demands action,NOT words......adjustments NOT Occupational Health referrals.Case No:2505901/09
Royal Mail is an Equal Opportunities Employer..It discriminates against everybody.
The DDA/Equality Act demands action,NOT words......adjustments NOT Occupational Health referrals.Case No:2505901/09
Royal Mail is an Equal Opportunities Employer..It discriminates against everybody.
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fishtank
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Re: Indoor Flow
Yes but you get to stick some pictures on the floor...General Mannerheim wrote:Porters and sorters WTF?
It sounds like some sort of knightmare knobby upstairs,downstairs cheese fest.
That makes the whole thing worthwhile.
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good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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dvbuk55
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Re: Indoor Flow
Wtf who has tiled floor ffs ours is concrete and who do you see about getting pictures on the floor - I fancy one of Kelly Brook nekkid - now there is a bonus incentive. Oh and one with my current address in case I forget where I live.fishtank wrote:Yes but you get to stick some pictures on the floor...General Mannerheim wrote:Porters and sorters WTF?
It sounds like some sort of knightmare knobby upstairs,downstairs cheese fest.
That makes the whole thing worthwhile.
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Bernardson
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Re: Indoor Flow
It was implemented in our DO but soon died a death as soon as a porter was absent no one was really willing to do it. Management got fed up with people pointing out portering was a demoralising task so everyone gave up.

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dvbuk55
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Re: Indoor Flow
Well it was pointed out that it gave the impression that of the three disciplines a porter was sort of at the bottom of preferences - bit like the last kid to be chosen for the team so to speak.Bernardson wrote:It was implemented in our DO but soon died a death as soon as a porter was absent no one was really willing to do it. Management got fed up with people pointing out portering was a demoralising task so everyone gave up.
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fishtank
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Re: Indoor Flow
There is a serious point in that when justifying the increased delivery spans it was recognised that this would only be possible if the rest of your duty was made up of "light indoor work".dvbuk55 wrote:Well it was pointed out that it gave the impression that of the three disciplines a porter was sort of at the bottom of preferences - bit like the last kid to be chosen for the team so to speak.Bernardson wrote:It was implemented in our DO but soon died a death as soon as a porter was absent no one was really willing to do it. Management got fed up with people pointing out portering was a demoralising task so everyone gave up.
I hardly think dragging trays and trolleys around an office all morning constitutes "light indoor work".
I'll get straight on the phone to Bob Gibson...i'm sure they've already got a plan....
good times, bad times you know I've had my share