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Can you trust planners?
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deanomac83
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Can you trust planners?
So, planners in and all current rounds are being re-timed. Anyway, it would seem the crafty sods have timed a duty using a CYCLE
Why? We will be using LWT on the new rounds. So basically the duty time on the computer is one hour less than it should be!!
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POSTMAN
- SITE ADMINISTRATOR
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- Joined: 07 Aug 2006, 03:19
- Gender: Male
Re: Can you trust planners?
Withdraw cooperation,tell them to feck off,walk,ballot,or whatever floats your boat.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Phantom
- Posts: 1234
- Joined: 27 Dec 2007, 18:17
- Gender: Female
- Location: New York
Re: Can you trust planners?
Yep, leave them to it like we did and they'll f**k up. We're in a right mess but no one will help them in anyway so all good here 
CUT OFF!!!
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halfull
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 858
- Joined: 22 Jan 2011, 13:37
- Gender: Male
Re: Can you trust planners?
NO!!! lying toerags! they are there to cut jobs & make jobs huge!

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Brandy
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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- Joined: 12 Sep 2011, 21:03
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Re: Can you trust planners?
No , need I say more 
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Almighty1
- Posts: 75
- Joined: 14 Mar 2012, 18:32
- Gender: Male
Re: Can you trust planners?
You've answered your own question.
Our revision has been rushed through and completely balls'd up. No cooperation from the union, but this works in their favour, so now they Can do what they want and as mentioned before they have an answer for everything!
Our revision has been rushed through and completely balls'd up. No cooperation from the union, but this works in their favour, so now they Can do what they want and as mentioned before they have an answer for everything!
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fishtank
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- Joined: 28 Sep 2007, 17:22
- Gender: Male
Re: Can you trust planners?
If you're going to withdraw co-operation you have be prepared to back it up with action even if that is without the support of your branch otherwise they will carry on regardless and you will get royally screwed over.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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wookie
- Posts: 319
- Joined: 30 Dec 2011, 12:38
- Gender: Male
Re: Can you trust planners?
In my office the planners were, how can i put it, a tad over zealous with their magnificent ideas. We voted it out, twice, but it was still implemented. It is chaos.....
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Phantom
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- Location: New York
Re: Can you trust planners?
Well we didn't help and we're cutting off left, right and centre - we've had 9 managers in the last 6 months trying to sort it out and still they fail cos no one will help, we are all doing less work than we did before so we're not prepared to do anything to help. The CWU should never, ever agreed to this s**t way of (not)working.fishtank wrote:If you're going to withdraw co-operation you have be prepared to back it up with action even if that is without the support of your branch otherwise they will carry on regardless and you will get royally screwed over.
CUT OFF!!!
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fishtank
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Re: Can you trust planners?
As long as you stick together that's fine.Phantom wrote:Well we didn't help and we're cutting off left, right and centre - we've had 9 managers in the last 6 months trying to sort it out and still they fail cos no one will help, we are all doing less work than we did before so we're not prepared to do anything to help.fishtank wrote:If you're going to withdraw co-operation you have be prepared to back it up with action even if that is without the support of your branch otherwise they will carry on regardless and you will get royally screwed over.
As long as your members can cope with working under stressful conditions and chaos that's fine.
As long as you realise you have a long road ahead with little outside help that's fine.
No arguments from me.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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DirtyHarry
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- Joined: 13 May 2007, 23:16
- Gender: Male
- Location: London
Re: Can you trust planners?
Can you trust planners?
Well, you can trust planners to plan duties for you and your colleagues, that they themselves would run a million miles away from.
Well, you can trust planners to plan duties for you and your colleagues, that they themselves would run a million miles away from.
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pants123
Re: Can you trust planners?
no, planners are there to make your life hell on earth,,,its as simple as that.
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specialkev
- Posts: 3
- Joined: 04 Jul 2012, 18:15
- Gender: Male
Re: Can you trust planners?
We having major probs in our office bringing in the van share.Tried 3 times i think now,going on over a year and still no joy.Funny how they doing mail counts last week when its nice and quiet in the summer!
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IloveMYredTROLLEY!
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 1923
- Joined: 02 Apr 2010, 06:54
- Gender: Male
Re: Can you trust planners?
With revised HCT duties, don't forget that weight is off the shoulder, which means every packet is in the HCT. Time will be needed to find keys; unlock trolley; locate every packet; lock trolley; check trolley is locked before walking to the delivery point.
When we had the pre-P&L packet counts going on, all they wanted to know was attendence packets that needed a knock at the door (or a signature for Recorded/Specials). On HCT walks that have a lot of non-attendence packets too, the above was highlighted as a big factor in why the delivery span was going way over, they simply were not accounted for in the planning.
As the saying goes, garbage in garbage out.
When we had the pre-P&L packet counts going on, all they wanted to know was attendence packets that needed a knock at the door (or a signature for Recorded/Specials). On HCT walks that have a lot of non-attendence packets too, the above was highlighted as a big factor in why the delivery span was going way over, they simply were not accounted for in the planning.
As the saying goes, garbage in garbage out.
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borgpicard
- Posts: 486
- Joined: 05 May 2011, 22:45
- Gender: Male
Re: Can you trust planners?
Errrr in a word........NO 