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Missed final collection, is it wilfull delay?

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DJS
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Missed final collection, is it wilfull delay?

Post by DJS »

Hi guys, I was asked to do lapsing today and although I thought I had a map in my bag, it turned out it wasn't there. Basically, I was lost in an area I didn't know and it took me a while to find my delivery point. Anyway, after being stitched up by one guy sending me in the wrong direction :vcfo I finally got correct directions and managed to find my way. Then after a ridiculously long walk to the bus stop, (I get two busses home btw, I live a fair distance from my DO and walk), I decided then to get some food between busses cos I was friggin starving! After enjoying a meal and recovering some energy I had to wait a half hour for my bus.

Point is, after all that, I missed final collection at my local pillar box that I usually put my mis-sorts/deads in. With the bank holidays next collection isn't untill wednesday. Am I at risk of being accused of wilfull delay?
spen
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Re: Missed final collection, is it wilfull delay?

Post by spen »

as long as there endorsed shouldnt be a problem
IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: Missed final collection, is it wilfull delay?

Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

just checking what did you do with your blue pouch?
DJS
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Re: Missed final collection, is it wilfull delay?

Post by DJS »

zx135 wrote:just checking what did you do with your blue pouch?
Blue pouch? What are they for? I've seen people using them but never knew what they were for?

Response to Spen, all mail was endorsed.
hantsman
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Re: Missed final collection, is it wilfull delay?

Post by hantsman »

DJS wrote:Hi guys, I was asked to do lapsing today and although I thought I had a map in my bag, it turned out it wasn't there. Basically, I was lost in an area I didn't know and it took me a while to find my delivery point. Anyway, after being stitched up by one guy sending me in the wrong direction :vcfo I finally got correct directions and managed to find my way. Then after a ridiculously long walk to the bus stop, (I get two busses home btw, I live a fair distance from my DO and walk), I decided then to get some food between busses cos I was friggin starving! After enjoying a meal and recovering some energy I had to wait a half hour for my bus.

Point is, after all that, I missed final collection at my local pillar box that I usually put my mis-sorts/deads in. With the bank holidays next collection isn't untill wednesday. Am I at risk of being accused of wilfull delay?

You joined in 2011 here, anything else we should know?
somerset
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Re: Missed final collection, is it wilfull delay?

Post by somerset »

Put your mis sorts and dead letters in a post box ??? Is that allowed ? :cuppa
IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: Missed final collection, is it wilfull delay?

Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

DJS wrote:
zx135 wrote:just checking what did you do with your blue pouch?
Blue pouch? What are they for? I've seen people using them but never knew what they were for?

Response to Spen, all mail was endorsed.
its the bag your supposed to put the mail into before you put it into the mail box, did you just endorse letters and post them in mail box?
IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: Missed final collection, is it wilfull delay?

Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

somerset wrote:Put your mis sorts and dead letters in a post box ??? Is that allowed ? :cuppa
only if he is using a blue puching off bag
DJS
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Re: Missed final collection, is it wilfull delay?

Post by DJS »

somerset wrote:Put your mis sorts and dead letters in a post box ??? Is that allowed ? :cuppa
So I was told! Holy s**t, the training at RM is terrible. I don't know, is it?
DJS
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Re: Missed final collection, is it wilfull delay?

Post by DJS »

zx135 wrote:
DJS wrote:
zx135 wrote:just checking what did you do with your blue pouch?
Blue pouch? What are they for? I've seen people using them but never knew what they were for?

Response to Spen, all mail was endorsed.
its the bag your supposed to put the mail into before you put it into the mail box, did you just endorse letters and post them in mail box?
Yes, nobody ever told me about blue bags. I've been doing it for months.
DJS
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Re: Missed final collection, is it wilfull delay?

Post by DJS »

Seriously, what is the procedure?
DJS
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Re: Missed final collection, is it wilfull delay?

Post by DJS »

I think I need to speak to my manager about this, how can they not tell me about this?
RedBagMan
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Re: Missed final collection, is it wilfull delay?

Post by RedBagMan »

Blue Bag - it goes back to your local DO (theoretically :wink: ) - otherwise any "loose" mail will end up back at your local mail centre - so it might take an extra day to dribble back to your DO - no big deal if endorsed ... that's as I understand it anyway ...'

Who's is this guy Willfull Delay anyway ???
"We're under model" - oh no we're not - stick your lapse elsewhere ...
TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: Missed final collection, is it wilfull delay?

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

1. You endorsed the mail.
2. You posted them back.

As long as the reason for endorsement is genuine then you should have no problems. SOME areas use a blue bag, some dont. We do and sometimes I take it out sometimes I don't - if I don't then I endorse the reason for return and take to a PO or to a Post Box.

Job done - in my estimation you have done nothing wrong and should enjoy the rest of the weekend +.

No need to contact your manager.
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RedBagMan wrote:Who's is this guy Willfull Delay anyway ???
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