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Law and RM.

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Ossie From Preston
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Law and RM.

Post by Ossie From Preston »

Mate of mine that works on the next frame is worried about his job because of a incident in Fishergate a few weeks ago, its been treated as assault but the police don’t want it in court as its lack of evidence so the cop told him he may get a police caution will he get sacked for this? I don’t know the law. Has anybody been in this situation the guy is cracking up his wife just had a baby as well.
phil1966
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Post by phil1966 »

keep quiet, as the police will not inform royal mail.As we all no. never own upto anything.Tell him not to worry
DB1100
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Post by DB1100 »

A lad at our place got a fine for assault and he's still working,so I wouldn't worry too much anyway if it's only a caution don't say anything and nobody needs to know plus unless he is convicted he is innocent surely.
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bigcol
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Post by bigcol »

Taking a caution means admitting you're guilty.
fmrPOSTIE
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Post by fmrPOSTIE »

No the police will not inform Royal Mail its a private matter (unless it happened during duty). Despite some people saying Royal Mail is a discloseable profession it is not.
Ossie From Preston
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Re: Law and RM.

Post by Ossie From Preston »

Problem is the guy that he allegedly assaulted told him “I know you’re a postie and I will get you sacked” that is his big worry at the moment.
He will lodge a complaint once its dealt with.
Indy
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Post by Indy »

Ossie From Preston wrote:“I know you’re a postie and I will get you sacked”
Not hard to see why this toss pot got assaulted in the first place :silenced
IcanthelpthewayIam
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Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

fmrPOSTIE wrote:No the police will not inform Royal Mail its a private matter (unless it happened during duty). Despite some people saying Royal Mail is a discloseable profession it is not.
Royal Mail is a notifiable profession, so royal mail MAY be informed about this, even if he opts for a fixed penalty without it going to court, now if it doesnt go to court then royal mail more than likely wont be too bothered but if it did then they may take the matter more seriously, his best bet would be to informally tell his manager he got into a bit of trouble but that he thinks its not going anywhere, thus covering his ass

Royal Mail employees are classed as Catagory 2 Employees in regards to notifiable professions, as such less serious crimes are not as likely to be notified, though may still be notified depending on the circumstances

http://www.lincs.police.uk/Library/Free ... ndix-B.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
tigercat
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Post by tigercat »

A lad at my office assaulted a guy in a pub. Went to court and got sent down. Did his sentence and came straight back to his job with RM .
wheresourmoney
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Post by wheresourmoney »

I think your mate should be alright,in my last office one of our lads use to play sunday football and had a run in with a heavy footed defender and ended up doing 3 months, royal mail kept his job open.I had a row with my next door neighbour which resulted in me going to the crown court, i informed royal mail of the situation ,mainly because i had to deliver to the geezer, and they even helped arrange my days off around my court dates, i pleaded guilty and still kept my job.
arnold cheshire
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Post by arnold cheshire »

tigercat wrote:A lad at my office assaulted a guy in a pub. Went to court and got sent down. Did his sentence and came straight back to his job with RM .
thats hard to believe did they put it down as annual leave ?????????? :Very Happy
fng
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Post by fng »

A Police Caution does not have to be accepted, the alternative is going to court.
If the Rozzers don't want to go to court because of lack of evidence :nervous etc then they wont.
They are just trying for the next best thing, which is the caution.
Takes big balls to turn the caution down and risk it not being taken to court though :pray
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fmrPOSTIE
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Post by fmrPOSTIE »

The Police do not treat Royal Mail as such anymore
IcanthelpthewayIam
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Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

fmrPOSTIE wrote:The Police do not treat Royal Mail as such anymore

Yes they do. Lad in the office got done for offence recently and police wrote to royal mail to inform them of it, read the link I posted above, shows that rm employees are still classed as notifiable profession
Evilmunkee
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Post by Evilmunkee »

Don't accept the caution, doing so is an admission of guilt and you will have a criminal record. Take it to court, they will have to prove all the facts, if there is not enough evidence it will be thrown out. the police want people to accept cautions as it looks good for their conviction rates.
Remember "semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit", the best translation of which seems to be: "the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges."