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over 50's pay protection

Post by silly suffolk »

had 2 members pay protection stopped after 2 years even though they had done the relevant duty over 3 years. told that final year goe's into their pension. is this correct? seems a poor deal when over 50's used to get pay protection in perpetuity.
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Re: over 50's pay protection

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Bit more info would help

is this grandfather rights/MTSF
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keithposty wrote:Bit more info would help

is this grandfather rights/MTSF
mtsf. they got mgv allowance protection, but wages told them the final third would go into their pension. i had a look at the new mtsf agreement and it seems to corroborate this. it just seems a bit harsh.
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Re: over 50's pay protection

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when did the new MTSF come into effect

i thought the union were just looking at it

its the 1st Ive heard it being signed off

any idea on the date it was signed off
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Re: over 50's pay protection

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keithposty wrote:when did the new MTSF come into effect

i thought the union were just looking at it

its the 1st Ive heard it being signed off

any idea on the date it was signed off
I READ the mtsf 2 agreement in the branch office. area reps ect got training on it. i think it came in a couple of years ago.
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Re: over 50's pay protection

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to be honest, this is the first time i have come across the new MTSF agreement

i have a section meeting in the morning at branch HQ

ill ask the question and get back to you
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Re: over 50's pay protection

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MTSF ... Page 12 ...para 5.3.3 ...... Protection of pensionable allowances for employees 50 or more ... We're employees of 50 or more are active contributary members of an RMG final salary pension scheme (A,B,C),payprotection will be pensionable and contributory, and payment of the full and final third (rounded) of payprotection will be deferred. This deferred this element of payprotection will be made in the final month of employment (or active contributory pension scheme membership for employees reaching 40 pensionable service) such that it feeds into final salary pensionable earnings.
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graffi wrote:MTSF ... Page 12 ...para 5.3.3 ...... Protection of pensionable allowances for employees 50 or more ... We're employees of 50 or more are active contributary members of an RMG final salary pension scheme (A,B,C),payprotection will be pensionable and contributory, and payment of the full and final third (rounded) of payprotection will be deferred. This deferred this element of payprotection will be made in the final month of employment (or active contributory pension scheme membership for employees reaching 40 pensionable service) such that it feeds into final salary pensionable earnings.
thanks graffi, does that mean they get a lump sum in their final month of employment?
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Re: over 50's pay protection

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That's how I read it "will be paid in the final month" am not big on pensions but that protects higher final salary yes ?
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Re: over 50's pay protection

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graffi wrote:That's how I read it "will be paid in the final month" am not big on pensions but that protects higher final salary yes ?
i'll pass this on to the members concerned. should placate them a bit. thanks again graffi
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Re: over 50's pay protection

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The 2010 revision of MTSF is slightly different.
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Re: over 50's pay protection

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Sorry guys... Fishtank is correct just downloaded latest MTSF from CWU compendium ....
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Re: over 50's pay protection

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Hi.
Does anybody know that if you work in a mail centre on permanent nights and drive a 600 and are OVER 50 and that mail centre closes.
You are are offered a delivery in a delivery office,Do you keep all of your allowances ie Night shift and driving allowance does this come under the MTSF agreement.
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Re: over 50's pay protection

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sammy1 wrote:Hi.
Does anybody know that if you work in a mail centre on permanent nights and drive a 600 and are OVER 50 and that mail centre closes.
You are are offered a delivery in a delivery office,Do you keep all of your allowances ie Night shift and driving allowance does this come under the MTSF agreement.
if your a pro driver you will keep this pay scale as it is a grade. if in the future they offer you another pro driver duty and you turn it down then you lose the grade money. you will recieve 2 years pay protection for your night allowance, and 1 year as a lump to inhance your pension before you take it.