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unfair distribution of overtime
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nuttyboy55
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unfair distribution of overtime
Hi
I wonder if anyone from the union can help me with a problem that has arisen in our office .We have just over 80 people working at our delivery office of which I would estimate 85% are drivers .Of course being drivers they maintain a good standard of living with collection overtime etc .There has been a recent input of early morning ips into the office from Wednesday to Saturday ( only 20 hours per week in total ) . I Feel this overtime should be offered to the non drivers who are taking home a basic wage each week . However I was told by my union rep that all overtime is open to everyone so we have the totally unfair situation of drivers on an average of 12 to 15 hours overtime each week fighting over the few hours available to non drivers .I always thought that the c.w.u stood for fairness in the workplace and would be grateful if anyone knows the unions policy on the distribution of overtime .
I wonder if anyone from the union can help me with a problem that has arisen in our office .We have just over 80 people working at our delivery office of which I would estimate 85% are drivers .Of course being drivers they maintain a good standard of living with collection overtime etc .There has been a recent input of early morning ips into the office from Wednesday to Saturday ( only 20 hours per week in total ) . I Feel this overtime should be offered to the non drivers who are taking home a basic wage each week . However I was told by my union rep that all overtime is open to everyone so we have the totally unfair situation of drivers on an average of 12 to 15 hours overtime each week fighting over the few hours available to non drivers .I always thought that the c.w.u stood for fairness in the workplace and would be grateful if anyone knows the unions policy on the distribution of overtime .
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Lounge Lizard
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Re: unfair distribution of overtime
That "overtime is open to everyone" is evidently the CWU's policy on this.nuttyboy55 wrote:Hi
I wonder if anyone from the union can help me with a problem that has arisen in our office .We have just over 80 people working at our delivery office of which I would estimate 85% are drivers .Of course being drivers they maintain a good standard of living with collection overtime etc .There has been a recent input of early morning ips into the office from Wednesday to Saturday ( only 20 hours per week in total ) . I Feel this overtime should be offered to the non drivers who are taking home a basic wage each week . However I was told by my union rep that all overtime is open to everyone so we have the totally unfair situation of drivers on an average of 12 to 15 hours overtime each week fighting over the few hours available to non drivers .I always thought that the c.w.u stood for fairness in the workplace and would be grateful if anyone knows the unions policy on the distribution of overtime .
How about offering to drive to stand a chance of getting more overtime ?
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nuttyboy55
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Re: unfair distribution of overtime
I suffer from Ménière's Disease .It's a form of vertigo which can also affect the hearing as a result I am not allowed to drive for Royal Mail .
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maisymoo04
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Re: unfair distribution of overtime
mate this goes on all over the board am afraid iv you could drive you could do this overtime like the other drivers all overtime is open to everyone even iv they also do collection sceddy overtime.cant you work your day off on overtime iv you could
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trythat
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Re: unfair distribution of overtime
I've got to say, if you're saying that nearly all of the drivers are on 12hrs+ OT a week, why is the rep not trying to promote PT to FT and get extra staff into the office?nuttyboy55 wrote:Hi
I wonder if anyone from the union can help me with a problem that has arisen in our office .We have just over 80 people working at our delivery office of which I would estimate 85% are drivers .Of course being drivers they maintain a good standard of living with collection overtime etc .There has been a recent input of early morning ips into the office from Wednesday to Saturday ( only 20 hours per week in total ) . I Feel this overtime should be offered to the non drivers who are taking home a basic wage each week . However I was told by my union rep that all overtime is open to everyone so we have the totally unfair situation of drivers on an average of 12 to 15 hours overtime each week fighting over the few hours available to non drivers .I always thought that the c.w.u stood for fairness in the workplace and would be grateful if anyone knows the unions policy on the distribution of overtime .
What we do in our office if there are more OPG who want OT, is to use a rota so everyone gets a fair crack at OT.
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dvbuk55
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Re: unfair distribution of overtime
Someone who once worked with me had it and it certainly didn't stop him from driving.nuttyboy55 wrote:I suffer from Ménière's Disease .It's a form of vertigo which can also affect the hearing as a result I am not allowed to drive for Royal Mail .
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BoltonPostie
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Re: unfair distribution of overtime
.I always thought that the c.w.u stood for fairness in the workplace
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jmcg
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Re: unfair distribution of overtime
have they considered using a totals system? whereby those who have performed the least overtime will get first preference? know its not perfect but too much of this abuse goes on all across the country... 
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BoltonPostie
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Re: unfair distribution of overtime
Dvb, Meniere's is an awful illness that has many stages,some people get it infrequently and lead `normal` lives,some people have it really bad that puts them on the floor as with alot of illness,it's what affects people on an individual basis.dvbuk55 wrote:Someone who once worked with me had it and it certainly didn't stop him from driving.nuttyboy55 wrote:I suffer from Ménière's Disease .It's a form of vertigo which can also affect the hearing as a result I am not allowed to drive for Royal Mail .
The grabbing hands
Grab all they can
All for themselves
After all
Grab all they can
All for themselves
After all
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Lounge Lizard
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Re: unfair distribution of overtime
The condition affects people differently; it can range in intensity from being a mild annoyancedvbuk55 wrote:Someone who once worked with me had it and it certainly didn't stop him from driving.nuttyboy55 wrote:I suffer from Ménière's Disease .It's a form of vertigo which can also affect the hearing as a result I am not allowed to drive for Royal Mail .
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resperin
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Re: unfair distribution of overtime
there should be an aggregate system in place which takes account of OT done in all the offices/areas. this should be easier to keep track of when they have PSP at your office
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Lounge Lizard
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Re: unfair distribution of overtime
Ideally everyone that wished would have a full time contract and wages would be such that none of us wanted or needed overtime. 
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POSTMAN
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Re: unfair distribution of overtime
Your office should have an overtime aggregate list Nutty.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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dvbuk55
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Re: unfair distribution of overtime
Our office has an overtime list, it's the same people all of the time and no one seems to speak out against it.
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silly suffolk
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Re: unfair distribution of overtime
aggregate list is mandatory. if not being used put in a grievance against whoever issue's o/t.