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Re-Applying for Job if we are privatised??

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Theghost
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Re-Applying for Job if we are privatised??

Post by Theghost »

If we get privatised next year will we have to re-apply for our jobs?

People in our office saying the people who have poor sick records,Or challenge managers will not be taken on.

If you are applying for a new job with a new company,why the hell should they have information on sick and office conduct?

True or just the typical office up the managers arse dickheads talking crap?
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Re: Re-Applying for Job if we are privatised??

Post by DirtyHarry »

Dickheads talking crap, mate.

Pretty sure that if we do get bought, and I doubt it will be as soon as next year personally, the new owners will have to take us on warts "n" all, on the same terms & conditions we are on now.
As for poor sick records, unless you are on stage 3, you have nothing to worry about.
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Post by fishtank »

Mostly dickheads talking crap.
It is possible that sometime in the future after we have been privatised and after TUPE has run it's course that at some point,depending on the type of employer.......to affect some change in contract we would technically have to re-apply for our jobs but that would most likely be with the sole intention of driving down our terms and conditions not weeding out people with conduct issues which would be risky from a legal point of view.
You would be looking at least 3 or 4 years down the line and it is a very unlikely scenario to be honest.
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Post by Budfrog »

I would imagine that all staff will move over under TUPE.

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However there would likely be some re-structuring which I would imagine would probably impact on the managers (frontline and support) more than the OPGs. If another mail operator was the buyer they of course would be wishing to remove duplication and standardise remuneration.
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Re: Re-Applying for Job if we are privatised??

Post by barbario »

fishtank wrote:Mostly dickheads talking crap.
It is possible that sometime in the future after we have been privatised and after TUPE has run it's course that at some point,depending on the type of employer.......to affect some change in contract we would technically have to re-apply for our jobs but that would most likely be with the sole intention of driving down our terms and conditions not weeding out people with conduct issues which would be risky from a legal point of view.
You would be looking at least 3 or 4 years down the line and it is a very unlikely scenario to be honest.
Dickheads talking crap mate.If they tried it ,it would probably cause a national strike as it would effect us all equally ,no matter where we worked in the company.
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Re: Re-Applying for Job if we are privatised??

Post by PostieSP1 »

They did it to the Dutch-Full timers down to 9-15hr contracts.Take it or get out :sad:
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Re: Re-Applying for Job if we are privatised??

Post by Caniel »

PostieSP1 wrote:They did it to the Dutch-Full timers down to 9-15hr contracts.Take it or get out :sad:
Different country.
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

Caniel wrote:
PostieSP1 wrote:They did it to the Dutch-Full timers down to 9-15hr contracts.Take it or get out :sad:
Different country.
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Re: Re-Applying for Job if we are privatised??

Post by oypostie »

Tell the dickheads that in most privatised companies it's the management that have to re-apply for their jobs first :nana
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Post by BELIAL »

oypostie wrote:Tell the dickheads that in most privatised companies it's the management that have to re-apply for their jobs first :nana
And if you get put on "special projects" ,let's say planning, the clock really is ticking down to the time when your position 'no longer exists' :whistle
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Re: Re-Applying for Job if we are privatised??

Post by PostieSP1 »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
Caniel wrote:
PostieSP1 wrote:They did it to the Dutch-Full timers down to 9-15hr contracts.Take it or get out :sad:
Different country.
Yes Holland is a different country, with labour laws that are better for workers than the UK.
They have same EU Laws that we have to abide by but lets hope we get out of it before then,as it's the poxy EU that started this mess!
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Post by wandle »

oypostie wrote:Tell the dickheads that in most privatised companies it's the management that have to re-apply for their jobs first :nana
Admin and managerial roles are expendable. But while there is mail to deliver, you still need frontline posties to deliver it :cool
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Re: Re-Applying for Job if we are privatised??

Post by arnold cheshire »

if you have to apply for you job they would have to give you redunduncy money
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Re: Re-Applying for Job if we are privatised??

Post by Budfrog »

bringon4dayweeks wrote:if you have to apply for you job they would have to give you redunduncy money
Nope ... doesn't work like that, the only ones who would get redundancy (on God knows what terms) would be the unsuccessful ones after the application process.
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Re: Re-Applying for Job if we are privatised??

Post by flaminmoses »

If a company buys out another company they have to continue with an employees contract
Of course they can try to make changes but im sure if they tried to make outrageous changes we would all walk out on strike

I say we....im still sacked atm