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weirdo
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Post by weirdo »

I was dismissed 20/02/12 after 10 years of service. I had my appeal today, at 1330. at 1756 I had a text from Atos saying I would be contacted next week for an appointment. forgive me for my ignorance, but I don't work for royal Mail anymore, so should I go? or tell them to fuk em selves, and i'll take my chances at an ET? your comments please. :hmmmm
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Stormproof
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Post by Stormproof »

What were you dismissed for? attendance?
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets

Illegitimi non carborundum
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General Mannerheim
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Location: Stalag 17

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Post by General Mannerheim »

did they tell you what the outcome of the appeal was there and then?.....if not they might be waiting for atos to report back.
Royal Mail managers.....about as popular as a t.urd in a swimming pool!
The DDA/Equality Act demands action,NOT words......adjustments NOT Occupational Health referrals.Case No:2505901/09
Royal Mail is an Equal Opportunities Employer..It discriminates against everybody.
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Red Robbo
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
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Joined: 31 Jan 2012, 09:23
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Re: Dismissal

Post by Red Robbo »

weirdo wrote:I was dismissed 20/02/12 after 10 years of service. I had my appeal today, at 1330. at 1756 I had a text from Atos saying I would be contacted next week for an appointment. forgive me for my ignorance, but I don't work for royal Mail anymore, so should I go? or tell them to fuk em selves, and i'll take my chances at an ET? your comments please. :hmmmm
It depends on whether you are relying on medical evidence or not, if you proceed to an ET and RM tell the Tribunal that you ignored the appointment arranged for you to see ATOS then the ET Judge would take a dim view of your actions.
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weirdo
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Joined: 15 Feb 2010, 13:07
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Post by weirdo »

Right, Red Robbo that does make sense, but don't you think that they should have sent me to Atos before they sacked me?
I have Atos ( OHS) reports dating back to 2004, and they all say the same thing. I have issues, but combat them with medication, So wouldn't the ET take a dim veiw of RM for not taking the advice of said reports?
Time for Legal Representaion, Me Thinks.
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Red Robbo
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Post by Red Robbo »

weirdo wrote:Right, Red Robbo that does make sense, but don't you think that they should have sent me to Atos before they sacked me?
I have Atos ( OHS) reports dating back to 2004, and they all say the same thing. I have issues, but combat them with medication, So wouldn't the ET take a dim veiw of RM for not taking the advice of said reports?
Time for Legal Representaion, Me Thinks.
Weirdo your appeal is to look at all the aspects of how your dismissal was established if there is doubt from the appeals manager then that could be the reason for him/her in asking for a medical report, in the meantime submit an ET to cover yourself.
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flaminmoses
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Joined: 05 Jul 2009, 14:17
Gender: Male

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Post by flaminmoses »

this sounds a bit familiar.

what have they sacked you for?
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weirdo
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Post by weirdo »

I was Dismissed for Gross Miscoduct, I swore, twice at a manager. I was on a two year serious for similar. Please don't judge me on that. Please believe that I have mitigating circumstances, and I've been tucked right up. But the Law is the Law, unlike Royal mail's Conduct code, which is Corrective one minute, the next Punative.
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weirdo
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Post by weirdo »

And Robbo, surely thats a positive thing, ( what you said,), I like the word Doubt.
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weirdo
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Post by weirdo »

And, just for your info, I was dismissed without Notice, this February, for an Incident that happened in the D.O last April. The Manager reasoned that if he didn't Dismiss me without Notice, it MIGHT happen again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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flaminmoses
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: Dismissal

Post by flaminmoses »

weirdo wrote:And, just for your info, I was dismissed without Notice, this February, for an Incident that happened in the D.O last April. The Manager reasoned that if he didn't Dismiss me without Notice, it MIGHT happen again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how did ti take that long to dismiss you ??
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weirdo
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Re: Dismissal

Post by weirdo »

You tell me? I've got Emails from me to them, asking for the case to be heard. Believe me, I work(ed) with untrained, unskilled jumped up postmen, who become managers, and the decide themselves, how they want to manipulate not only the Conduct Procedure but also the B&H procedure.
Some of these so called Managers are not fit for purpose, and I've stood up to them, and they hate it(ME).

Yes, I've been Dismissed, and yes, I'm going through it right now, but I won't give up.

When I recieved my 2 year serious, I had to go to a Stage 2 Grievance to get my Appeal, five Months that took.

I'm still in greivance with RM over the way my pay was stopped whilst on sick because a manager THOUGHT my sick note had ran out. I started this procedure in December last year. Ongoing.

And Both Grievances ( I won the first ) were against the same Dsm, and guess who dismissed me?

And don't get me started about the union.......
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