ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

Advice Please Repick and Family friendly Duties

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
Hawkey99
Posts: 568
Joined: 23 Oct 2011, 11:19
Gender: Male

Advice Please Repick and Family friendly Duties

Post by Hawkey99 »

Hi all,

Our office is undergoing a full van share revision. We are due to have a repick but a contensious issue has occured.

Out of 35 duties (approx 45 staff) 15 people have applied for and been given Family Friendly status.

We have now been told that these people in seniority will be allowed to pick duties before anybody else can, then the rest of us will then pick the remaining duties based on seniority.

Whilst of course people with children should be accomadated I would have thought this would have been before the repick stated and that these duties would not form part of the repick.

is there any policy on this or has anybody else come across this. Very grateful for any help.

Many thanks in advance.
feduppostie
Posts: 947
Joined: 24 Jun 2007, 19:46

Re: Advice Please Repick and Family friendly Duties

Post by feduppostie »

our family friendly duties were not put in the revision

the people that had been given them to accomadate family friendly kept them
not me
Posts: 2735
Joined: 10 Aug 2007, 15:07
Gender: Female
Location: Uranus

Re: Advice Please Repick and Family friendly Duties

Post by not me »

what is the remit of F&F
eg what is it about those duties that allow F&F
different start time? or simply 'easier' duties?
feduppostie
Posts: 947
Joined: 24 Jun 2007, 19:46

Re: Advice Please Repick and Family friendly Duties

Post by feduppostie »

in ours it is different start times and they are paired up with another FF duty that requires the same duty times as them or it is done like a job share where one works some days the other does the rest - static days no rotations
gb93
Posts: 1462
Joined: 29 Oct 2009, 16:25
Gender: Male

Re: Advice Please Repick and Family friendly Duties

Post by gb93 »

Farce, Gilding the Lily, of course not :cuppa
This ain't no baseball game, you get only one chance and you blew it.
Hawkey99
Posts: 568
Joined: 23 Oct 2011, 11:19
Gender: Male

Re: Advice Please Repick and Family friendly Duties

Post by Hawkey99 »

Does anybody know if we have a policy, agreement or anything to go by.
fishtank
Posts: 19732
Joined: 28 Sep 2007, 17:22
Gender: Male

Re: Advice Please Repick and Family friendly Duties

Post by fishtank »

Hawkey99 wrote:Does anybody know if we have a policy, agreement or anything to go by.

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... ng#p470529" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Right to Request Flexible Working
• Does an employee already have arrangements in place?
• If so ensure that these are covered in an appropriate duty for that individual’s attendance pattern.
• Ensure this duty is ring fenced for this employee under the office re-pick
• If a person submits an application under this legislation during the design process, then the normal business procedures should be followed.
• These are detailed in the Flexible Working Policy
• It is important to note that managers are obliged to seriously consider all applications from eligible people and can refuse a request only if there are clear business grounds for doing so.
• It is vital that you contact your local advice and support team so that the legal requirements are met.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
Hawkey99
Posts: 568
Joined: 23 Oct 2011, 11:19
Gender: Male

Re: Advice Please Repick and Family friendly Duties

Post by Hawkey99 »

The finish times in our office are going from 14:15 to 15:00.

If someone says they collect their child / children from school would this be enough criteria to be given a family friendly duty.

We seem to have over a quarter of the office that our DOM has given family friendly duties.

Bizarre ???
not me
Posts: 2735
Joined: 10 Aug 2007, 15:07
Gender: Female
Location: Uranus

Re: Advice Please Repick and Family friendly Duties

Post by not me »

Hawkey99 wrote:The finish times in our office are going from 14:15 to 15:00.

If someone says they collect their child / children from school would this be enough criteria to be given a family friendly duty.

We seem to have over a quarter of the office that our DOM has given family friendly duties.

Bizarre ???

we have some FF in our office
funny that most seem to manage docket too............
ilikepostmen
Posts: 9
Joined: 27 Mar 2011, 20:17
Gender: Female

Re: Advice Please Repick and Family friendly Duties

Post by ilikepostmen »

custard wrote:we have some FF in our office
funny that most seem to manage docket too............
:crazy: This is what Management should be looking at.
PhilthyPhil
Posts: 1155
Joined: 23 Nov 2007, 19:15

Re: Advice Please Repick and Family friendly Duties

Post by PhilthyPhil »

We have a guy who was given a fixed sat off under FF but then he works them all on OT :crazy:
User avatar
POSTMAN
SITE ADMINISTRATOR
Posts: 32787
Joined: 07 Aug 2006, 03:19
Gender: Male

Re: Advice Please Repick and Family friendly Duties

Post by POSTMAN »

Hawkey99 wrote:The finish times in our office are going from 14:15 to 15:00.

If someone says they collect their child / children from school would this be enough criteria to be given a family friendly duty.

We seem to have over a quarter of the office that our DOM has given family friendly duties.

Bizarre ???
To be fair what is 45 minutes,wouldn't it of been easier just to keep the same finishing times.
There is always a way to sort things if those involved in the revision worked a bit harder on it,maybe nick 15 mins or so.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
fishtank
Posts: 19732
Joined: 28 Sep 2007, 17:22
Gender: Male

Re: Advice Please Repick and Family friendly Duties

Post by fishtank »

Isn't it a bit weird how animated members get when they think someone else is getting something they aren't.
It's just a shame they go back to sleep when it comes to protecting their own terms and conditions.
...and no,i'm not on "family friendly" but if i could get the whole office on them i would....and i'm working on it. :wink:
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
dvbuk55
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 16650
Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
Gender: Male

Re: Advice Please Repick and Family friendly Duties

Post by dvbuk55 »

Well I'd deal with it simply.....................no FF under any circumstances...............family circumstances are the responsibility of the individual not the company that employs them.
gb93
Posts: 1462
Joined: 29 Oct 2009, 16:25
Gender: Male

Re: Advice Please Repick and Family friendly Duties

Post by gb93 »

dvbuk55 wrote:Well I'd deal with it simply.....................no FF under any circumstances...............family circumstances are the responsibility of the individual not the company that employs them.
Showing your wealth of good sense built up over the years there dvb :Very Happy :Applause :Applause :Applause
This ain't no baseball game, you get only one chance and you blew it.