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Dismissal and Greivance

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weirdo
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Dismissal and Greivance

Post by weirdo »

Hi Guys,

I have been dismissed this morning, for swearing, but's that's neither here nor there, but my question is thus:

I have lodged a Grievance, December last year, and I had a meeting arranged for the end of this week. But now I no longer work for the company, how does this affect my Grievance?

Will it still be heard? or is that it?

Perversely, the Grievance was lodged in December 2011 against the manager who dismissed me.

your thoughts please.

Thanks
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hantsman
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Re: Dismissal and Greivance

Post by hantsman »

weirdo wrote:Hi Guys,

I have been dismissed this morning, for swearing, but's that's neither here nor there, but my question is thus:

I have lodged a Greivance, December last year, and I had a meeting arranged for the end of this week. But now I no longer work for the company, how does this affect my Greivance?

Will it still be heard? or is that it?

Perversely, the Grievance was lodged in December 2011 against the manager who dimissed me.

your thoughts please.

Thanks
They should hear it but they won't as you have been dismissed.
SexyLegs
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Re: Dismissal and Greivance

Post by SexyLegs »

weirdo wrote:Hi Guys,

I have been dismissed this morning, for swearing, but's that's neither here nor there, but my question is thus:

I have lodged a Grievance, December last year, and I had a meeting arranged for the end of this week. But now I no longer work for the company, how does this affect my Grievance?

Will it still be heard? or is that it?

Perversely, the Grievance was lodged in December 2011 against the manager who dismissed me.

your thoughts please.

Thanks
Dismissed....why? Did you swear at someone?, are there any witnesses?
graffi
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Re: Dismissal and Greivance

Post by graffi »

Appeal !!! Get your rep to place it in ASAP ... Would use greivance in appeal !
weirdo
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Re: Dismissal and Greivance

Post by weirdo »

No, there were no witnesses, but i admitted i swore, not at him but within the context of a statement.

I told him i couldn't complete, and he said he'd put me on something i could complete, i told him he can do what he effing well wants.

As he walked off, he says " and I'll make you work your time", to which i said, " you can do what you effing well want "

Then i was suspended for swearing.

The Appeals lodged, just got to wait.

As for my Grievance.....well who knows.
Pat Ostman
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Re: Dismissal and Greivance

Post by Pat Ostman »

It is highly unlikely you will be sacked. This is a personal opinion but i stand by it if thats all you did. You will Probably be left to sweat on full pay for a week.

Finally, i would be suprised if you have been dismissed. At the worse, precautionally suspended. (manager felt 'threatened'). A oxymoron.
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General Mannerheim
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Re: Dismissal and Greivance

Post by General Mannerheim »

We've had a guy sacked within the last few weeks for exactly the same thing.
Depends on how much of an arsehole the DOM is. :roll:
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Re: Dismissal and Greivance

Post by DGP1 »

My DOM swears more than me...............and I swear a LOT :nervous
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Re: Dismissal and Greivance

Post by blackadder »

you been sacked or just suspended ??
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Pat Ostman
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Re: Dismissal and Greivance

Post by Pat Ostman »

General Mannerheim wrote:We've had a guy sacked within the last few weeks for exactly the same thing.
Depends on how much of an arsehole the DOM is. :roll:
Doubtful it was first offence without aggression.
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Brainache
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Re: Dismissal and Greivance

Post by Brainache »

Get your mates in the office to engage in chat and banter with this manager and make a note each day of his swearing. Unless he only ever says sugar and flipinell.
weirdo
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Re: Dismissal and Greivance

Post by weirdo »

dismissal without notice. that's what the letter says.

I swore in the context of a statement, twice, last April. However, i was on a two year serious at the time ( finished this January ).

Now, the point is, my dom swears like a trooper, and I believe you talk to people the way they like to talk to you. This is the same idiot who stopped my sick pay because he THOUGHT that my sick note was finished, hence the Grievance. there is other mitigation that I shall be using.

Oh, and it didn't help that my local CWU signed a statement when i rucked up in the fact finding. it's quite staggering!
Himaggen
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Re: Dismissal and Greivance

Post by Himaggen »

Dismissal without notice usually only stands if the correct procedures have been followed leading up to that dismissal. An appeal/tribunal will also look at your 'two year serious' and what warnings you'd had leading up to the decision.

The use expletives towards your superior regardless of how they communicate with you is wrong as is 'rucking up' during an official procedure. I'd strongly suggest that you put those beliefs on the back burner if you wish to pursue an appeal/tribunal.
Red Robbo
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Re: Dismissal and Greivance

Post by Red Robbo »

weirdo wrote:Hi Guys,

I have been dismissed this morning, for swearing, but's that's neither here nor there, but my question is thus:

I have lodged a Grievance, December last year, and I had a meeting arranged for the end of this week. But now I no longer work for the company, how does this affect my Grievance?

Will it still be heard? or is that it?

Perversely, the Grievance was lodged in December 2011 against the manager who dismissed me.

your thoughts please.

Thanks
Weirdo you can carry on with your grievance in writing even though you have been summary dismissed, make sure you keep copies of all correpndence