revision bonus

[iomsteve]

Hi advice needed please
I have just transferred from an office that is pre revision to an office where park and loop has been up and running for some time. My question is how am i fixed for getting the lump sum payments?? Any advice cant get any sense from anyone.

[Judgee]

Well personally I think you will get nothing. The money is for working through the changes and helping to "make it work". Your last office had no changes implemented before you left and the new office you are at has already started the process and is no doubt over the initial shock of the changes (albeit probably still in a hell of a mess)

Consider yourself getting nothing and if you do get something is its a bonus isnt it?

[fishtank]

Hi advice needed please
I have just transferred from an office that is pre revision to an office where park and loop has been up and running for some time. My question is how am i fixed for getting the lump sum payments?? Any advice cant get any sense from anyone.

Welcome to RMC steve.


Employees who move Office - Transformation Lump Sum Payments and Shorter Working Week

There are a number of situations that require clarification involving employees who transfer from one office to another.
On transfer, if the receiving office has already qualified for a lump sum payment and the transferee has not previously received payment from their old office, or has received a lower payment the lump sum or the difference will be paid.
On transfer, if the receiving office has not qualified for a lump sum payment, but the transferee has already received payment from their old office, the individual will not be due payment when the new office triggers the lump sum, unless the receiving office payment is greater.
If the transferee is already in receipt of the shorter working week from their old office, but the receiving office has not achieved the shorter working week, the transferee will only be expected to work the reduced hours at their new office.

[iomsteve]

thanx fishtank that is what i wanted to hear everyone else was saying no chance but every employee is entitled to this so will be having a chat tomorrow

[kennybones]

Hello am in exactly one of the situations bellow

i have trnasfered from an office that went through the revision( some time ago just over 2 years ) and never recieved the lump sum payment

i have just transfered to an office that has went through the same revison and thet have recieved the payemnt i litterally asked a manager about it today who brushed it of that there is no way i would egt anything i have been with royam mail just over 4 years

im not sure how to proceed i thought about asking local rep but i thought this maybe over his head i am considering seeking advice from an employment lawyer im fed of being treted differently from other staff just because i have transferred and am not on a full time contract

any help you can offer would be appreciated

Hi advice needed please
I have just transferred from an office that is pre revision to an office where park and loop has been up and running for some time. My question is how am i fixed for getting the lump sum payments?? Any advice cant get any sense from anyone.

Welcome to RMC steve.


Employees who move Office - Transformation Lump Sum Payments and Shorter Working Week

There are a number of situations that require clarification involving employees who transfer from one office to another.
On transfer, if the receiving office has already qualified for a lump sum payment and the transferee has not previously received payment from their old office, or has received a lower payment the lump sum or the difference will be paid.
On transfer, if the receiving office has not qualified for a lump sum payment, but the transferee has already received payment from their old office, the individual will not be due payment when the new office triggers the lump sum, unless the receiving office payment is greater.
If the transferee is already in receipt of the shorter working week from their old office, but the receiving office has not achieved the shorter working week, the transferee will only be expected to work the reduced hours at their new office.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Kenny that's the nuclear option to be honest. Even for an Employment Tribunal you have to exhaust all avenues available to you within Royal Mail.

So I would in order:

1. Go to manager with a printed copy of the page in the agreement.
2. If 1 fails then go to the Unit Rep.
3. If 2 fails go to Area Rep.
4. If that fails then back to the Unit rep and put in a grievance about the Manager not applying the agreement correctly
5. Follow the grievance procedure through all its stages but at 4 fill out an ET1 and submit it (you need to do that within 3 months of the grievance
IIRC so I would put it in at same time just to get it logged)
6. Then if that does not work either use Simpson and Millar (Union Solicitors) if the CWU think you have a good case, or your own Solicitor if not.

Good luck

[POSTMAN]

Possibly 4.5 justsayit@royalmail.com
Explain your situation,tbh they are quite good in getting stuff done.

[kennybones]

Kenny that's the nuclear option to be honest. Even for an Employment Tribunal you have to exhaust all avenues available to you within Royal Mail.

So I would in order:

1. Go to manager with a printed copy of the page in the agreement.
2. If 1 fails then go to the Unit Rep.
3. If 2 fails go to Area Rep.
4. If that fails then back to the Unit rep and put in a grievance about the Manager not applying the agreement correctly
5. Follow the grievance procedure through all its stages but at 4 fill out an ET1 and submit it (you need to do that within 3 months of the grievance
IIRC so I would put it in at same time just to get it logged)
6. Then if that does not work either use Simpson and Millar (Union Solicitors) if the CWU think you have a good case, or your own Solicitor if not.

Good luck

i had a look though the downloads section i couldnt find the part that had the above section in it i dont want to just print a piece from a forum he will think im at it

i was thinking phoning HR but from the lack of anyone suggesting that im thinking that may be a waste of time

the suggestion for just say it do i just email them explaining the situation and see what occurs got to worth a try i suppose

thanks guys

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Its from LTB 892/10

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 42&t=30557" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

if you go to the above link you can download the OFFICIAL LTB

[cheekymonkey91]

I have noticed that TrueBlueTerrier mentioned something along the lines of this last month in the below post;


Re: lump sum ?
by TrueBlueTerrier » Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:30 pm

I believe there is ongoing discussion about paying those that have not qualified by a certain date - April 2013 IIRC.


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