The New Pay System

[TrueBlueTerrier]

As some will know a new pay system is being introduced - fair enough you need to change things occasionally.

However, the change has some serious implications - for instance annual leave will now be worked out on an Hourly basis.

As this is a major change did we, or are we going to get a vote on it, or are we going to be informed by the CWU on the implications. Or, as I suspect, is this a direct result of the BT2010 agreement that I somehow missed despite reading as much as I could of it.


Anyone any ideas.

[Glenno]

Here you go Teebs

[DGP1]

Where does it say the leave is worked out on an hourly basis.............we've been on PSP for a while and still work on the days system but then we're only allowed full weeks off so it doesn't make any real difference.

[fishtank]

It's a already the subject of a joint agreement so no we won't get a vote on it.
How much impact it will have is hard to say.
According to Royal Mail and the CWU...not a lot.

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 15&t=39124" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

For DGP.

Annual leave

There is no material change to the amount of leave which employees are entitled to. Annual leave will continue to be allocated to employees based on the hours they work and their contractual entitlements in terms of leave. However the PSP will record and process annual leave in hours instead of days, meaning that leave entitlements will be reduced by the actual hours and minutes taken – not days as is current practice. This means that leave can now be taken in hours if a full day is not required.

For example an employee contracted to work on a Tuesday for 6 hours will have 6 hours deducted from their leave entitlement rather than 1 day, alternatively an employee contracted to work 9 hrs will have 9 hours deducted rather than 1 day.

The leave year will continue to run from April to March. Leave entitlements will be rounded up to the nearest half day and will then be converted into hours. When leave is taken, it will be reduced by hours and minutes with no rounding, except by the conversion to decimals. This is the only change to annual leave. Leave entitlements and the principles of how this is allocated will not be changing whatsoever.

Where someone starts or leaves part way through the year their leave entitlement will be pro-rated by dividing their contractual entitlement by (the total number of days in the holiday year divided by those remaining).

Leave reserves will continue to have their annual leave allocated in days converted to standard 8 hour days. Therefore a day is a standard day for leave, absence, pay deductions etc.

Communications, training and support will be provided to Bookroom staff on how to manage this transition from annual leave in days to hours. This will be rolled out as part of the PSP roll out so not all regions will change at the same time.

The amount of days left at the end of the entitlement year for an employee will be carried over automatically in the system. Negative leave balances created due to transition to the new system will be waived.
Where an individual wishes to take a days leave but has a shortfall in remaining hours to do so they will be allowed, in agreement with their manager, to draw the shortfall in hours down from next years leave allocation with that leave allocation being adjusted accordingly.

The annual leave purchase scheme remains unaffected by this change over to PSP.

[daveallum]

Tried this system about 15 years ago when I worked for British Gas,complete and total cock up,lasted all of six months.

[dvbuk55]

Worked for ESI and that was instituted about 25 years ago. It was suggested that it was beneficial to the employer.........however it worked out that each person could end up with spare hours to take, so in some instances I had to authorise overtime if it was a couple of hours or half a day off if it was four hours, which was a pain in the arse getting them back from 30 miles away to finish at lunchtime. I can see this happening again with the longs and shorts.

[DGP1]

Worked for ESI and that was instituted about 25 years ago. It was suggested that it was beneficial to the employer.........however it worked out that each person could end up with spare hours to take, so in some instances I had to authorise overtime if it was a couple of hours or half a day off if it was four hours, which was a pain in the arse getting them back from 30 miles away to finish at lunchtime. I can see this happening again with the longs and shorts.

All set up by managers who don't have any clue about things actually work, still it'll be nice to ask for 2 hours leave................which will only cost them 4 hours to do so