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wheresourmoney
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money taken from wages
Am i right in thinking that it is illegal to take money out of your wages without your consent, and if so, how come the cwu can raise prices then take it out of our wages without a word of notification,im surprised more peaple are not up in arms about the total lack of respect shown to the members.
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POSTMAN
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Re: money taken from wages
There was an LTB out and it was in the voice.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: money taken from wages
POSTMAN wrote:There was an LTB out and it was in the voice.
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arnold cheshire
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Re: money taken from wages
it always says in the voice magazinewheresourmoney wrote:Am i right in thinking that it is illegal to take money out of your wages without your consent, and if so, how come the cwu can raise prices then take it out of our wages without a word of notification,im surprised more peaple are not up in arms about the total lack of respect shown to the members.
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wheresourmoney
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Re: money taken from wages
Thanks for the replys lads,have no idea what a ltb is , and i have never read the voice.
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DGP1
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Re: money taken from wages
A LTB is a Letter To Branch, something that is sent out by HQ and should be distributed to all reps for distribution to members.wheresourmoney wrote:Thanks for the replys lads,have no idea what a ltb is , and i have never read the voice.
For all my information I come on here, best way to communicate which is ironic because both the CWU HQ and RM HQ don't really like us
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clashcityrocker
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Re: money taken from wages
LTB = Letter to Branches.
Your rep gets them from the Branch. They should be displayed on the union noticeboard.
Your rep gets them from the Branch. They should be displayed on the union noticeboard.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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arnold cheshire
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Re: money taken from wages
what your saying is twenty pence is too much extra personally i think they should reduce it by 50 pence a week
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silly suffolk
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Re: money taken from wages
i could weep. when you consider the terms and conditions we get in comparison to others mainly because of our union, the increase is well worth paying.bringon4dayweeks wrote:what your saying is twenty pence is too much extra personally i think they should reduce it by 50 pence a week
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DGP1
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Re: money taken from wages
But this current leadership seems to have forgotten all about what they're supposed to be about, that's the reason for the discontent........you're only as good as your latest victory and the CWU doesn't seem to have had any recently.silly suffolk wrote:i could weep. when you consider the terms and conditions we get in comparison to others mainly because of our union, the increase is well worth paying.bringon4dayweeks wrote:what your saying is twenty pence is too much extra personally i think they should reduce it by 50 pence a week
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silly suffolk
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Re: money taken from wages
fair comment, but its down to the membership to change the people at the top when they fail to produce. i think comments from union headquarters regarding imminant revisions ect, the powers that be realise the troops are revolting and its time to change tack a bit.DGP1 wrote:But this current leadership seems to have forgotten all about what they're supposed to be about, that's the reason for the discontent........you're only as good as your latest victory and the CWU doesn't seem to have had any recently.silly suffolk wrote:i could weep. when you consider the terms and conditions we get in comparison to others mainly because of our union, the increase is well worth paying.bringon4dayweeks wrote:what your saying is twenty pence is too much extra personally i think they should reduce it by 50 pence a week
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DGP1
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Re: money taken from wages
silly suffolk wrote:fair comment, but its down to the membership to change the people at the top when they fail to produce. i think comments from union headquarters regarding imminant revisions ect, the powers that be realise the troops are revolting and its time to change tack a bit.DGP1 wrote:But this current leadership seems to have forgotten all about what they're supposed to be about, that's the reason for the discontent........you're only as good as your latest victory and the CWU doesn't seem to have had any recently.silly suffolk wrote:i could weep. when you consider the terms and conditions we get in comparison to others mainly because of our union, the increase is well worth paying.bringon4dayweeks wrote:what your saying is twenty pence is too much extra personally i think they should reduce it by 50 pence a week
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fishtank
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Re: money taken from wages
Last year the rise was 3%...this year it's 4%.silly suffolk wrote:i could weep. when you consider the terms and conditions we get in comparison to others mainly because of our union, the increase is well worth paying.bringon4dayweeks wrote:what your saying is twenty pence is too much extra personally i think they should reduce it by 50 pence a week
The members have had 3.4% total since 2007/8....notwithstanding inflation running at around 5%.
The union structure is massively bloated for the membership numbers we have and money is wasted on a grand scale.
The wages bill alone is around £8million or roughly a third of income.
To expect members to keep upping their contributions to offset a loss in revenue due to falling membership and a culture of spending beyond their means is foolish and short-sighted.
Billy Hayes went to the UNI Post and Logistics Global Union Conference in Washington DC...an expensive trip but you could almost justify it...he is GS after all however he was joined by president Jane Loftus; head of international affairs, John Baldwin; national executive council member Lesley McLean midlands regional secretary Lee Barron and women's advisory committee member Vera Kelsey.
Of course they will all be able to justify their presence but really?....6 of them?
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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silly suffolk
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Re: money taken from wages
again fair comment, i don't agree with full time release for area and div reps, headquarters seems like a generals chateau miles behind the lines in ww1, but its up to us to try and change it.fishtank wrote:Last year the rise was 3%...this year it's 4%.silly suffolk wrote:i could weep. when you consider the terms and conditions we get in comparison to others mainly because of our union, the increase is well worth paying.bringon4dayweeks wrote:what your saying is twenty pence is too much extra personally i think they should reduce it by 50 pence a week
The members have had 3.4% total since 2007/8....notwithstanding inflation running at around 5%.
The union structure is massively bloated for the membership numbers we have and money is wasted on a grand scale.
The wages bill alone is around £8million or roughly a third of income.
To expect members to keep upping their contributions to offset a loss in revenue due to falling membership and a culture of spending beyond their means is foolish and short-sighted.
Billy Hayes went to the UNI Post and Logistics Global Union Conference in Washington DC...an expensive trip but you could almost justify it...he is GS after all however he was joined by president Jane Loftus; head of international affairs, John Baldwin; national executive council member Lesley McLean midlands regional secretary Lee Barron and women's advisory committee member Vera Kelsey.
Of course they will all be able to justify their presence but really?....6 of them?
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slave
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Re: money taken from wages
Indeed, but it requires someone or a group of people to make a stand and promise real change at all levels within the union - I can only imagine what the union top brass would do to people like this (try and shove them out or dig dirt so they continue to enjoy their champagne lifestyle etc)silly suffolk wrote:again fair comment, i don't agree with full time release for area and div reps, headquarters seems like a generals chateau miles behind the lines in ww1, but its up to us to try and change it.
If the likes of Hayes really gave a s**t about the workforce they'd of made significant changes years ago, but they havn't because they know only too well they're on to a good thing getting a decent wage and paid-for-jollies all over the place, meanwhile back in the real world I've had no flimsy-share money, no reason to believe I'll get the % pay increase RM suggested we would get this year, no real input from the union on revisions and workload and so I could go on..
It's a times like this I feel like withdrawing support from the dinosaur of a union, I don't see any future considering they f****d us over and insist on wasting my money to pay for the priviledged few to enjoy themselves. If I had the time or energy I'd start a campaign to rid this union of over-paid spongers, but I don't so I won't, so maybe I'll just f**k off instead and stop them getting my hard earned pennies.