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NOW 10 O CLOCK START WITH COLLECTIONS

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keithposty
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NOW 10 O CLOCK START WITH COLLECTIONS

Post by keithposty »

JUST HAD A DING DONG WITH THE PLANNERS

IT SEEMS THEY WANT TO MAKE A BULK OF THE RURAL JOBS 10 TO 6

THAT WAY YOU DO THE DELIVERY AND THEN DO A COLLECTION OR ONE OF THE SCEDULES AT THE END

ITS WAR

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clashcityrocker
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Post by clashcityrocker »

I can't see any justification for Scheduled Attendance o/t in offices that are struggling to maintain full-time jobs.
A situation where a full-timer gets a guaranteed amount of overtime each week simply means the part-timer on 30 hours/week is going to stay on 30 hours/week.
Hybrid duties are a way of protecting full time jobs but they aren't a way of protecting earnings.
If you can't do both I know which option I would choose.

The situation may be different in your office.
I know a 10-6 shift may be of interest to some.
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keithposty
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Post by keithposty »

I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING

the point is they should be making up the duties to a full delivery span, pegasus is comming out at 3 hour 15 which is garbage

it is just another way of taking hours out the office

we allready have 6 hybrid jobs
fishtank
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Post by fishtank »

If the delivery element on a hybrid duty is unachievable the collection will fail.
Hybrids cannot "flex up" and should not be planned using the lowest traffic week unless there is a contingency plan in place to deal with excess delivery.
As far as having them i'm with Clash...jobs are the priority.
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Post by dvbuk55 »

I too agree with hybrid duties, though at the moment we don't have any, we have lost a number of SA collections. The problem is there are fewer and fewer people to do them because their duties don't enable them to get back on time, though some are cutting corners to be able to do them and there is an element of blind eye involved. Looked at realistically it would be possible to make some duties full time if they were hybridised.
adrianjames
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Post by adrianjames »

GOOD IDEA.SOME STAFF WOULD LIKE THE IDEA OF THAT
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arnold cheshire
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Post by arnold cheshire »

keithposty wrote:I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING

the point is they should be making up the duties to a full delivery span, pegasus is comming out at 3 hour 15 which is garbage

it is just another way of taking hours out the office

we allready have 6 hybrid jobs
thats a lot we have 4 hybrid duties
daveyeff
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Post by daveyeff »

keithposty wrote:JUST HAD A DING DONG WITH THE PLANNERS

IT SEEMS THEY WANT TO MAKE A BULK OF THE RURAL JOBS 10 TO 6

THAT WAY YOU DO THE DELIVERY AND THEN DO A COLLECTION OR ONE OF THE SCEDULES AT THE END

ITS WAR

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and how would they do it with parknloop, i.e. the non driver. or is it just driver only
fishtank
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Post by fishtank »

daveyeff wrote: and how would they do it with parknloop, i.e. the non driver. or is it just driver only
In our office they are stand alone duties.
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Big Daz
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Post by Big Daz »

PT wanting to go FT is not in great demand amongst the PT in my D.O. I have one 30 hour member who wants to go FT he was FT but left for a while then came back last year on a 30 hour contract. We currently have two FT vacanies but RML are not going to move his hours up due to IWT figures and the belief they will get savings from the revision.
arnold cheshire
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Post by arnold cheshire »

bringon4dayweeks wrote:
keithposty wrote:I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING

the point is they should be making up the duties to a full delivery span, pegasus is comming out at 3 hour 15 which is garbage

it is just another way of taking hours out the office

we allready have 6 hybrid jobs
thats a lot we have 4 hybrid duties
you have 6 hybrids so how can they have more 10 -till 6 are they going to double up on a collection sounds crazy . how many collections can a office have /????
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Post by Godric »

keithposty wrote:JUST HAD A DING DONG WITH THE PLANNERS

IT SEEMS THEY WANT TO MAKE A BULK OF THE RURAL JOBS 10 TO 6

THAT WAY YOU DO THE DELIVERY AND THEN DO A COLLECTION OR ONE OF THE SCEDULES AT THE END

ITS WAR

COMMENTS PEOPLE
no offence but doesn't the USO state after the revision is in town deliveries are to be no later than 3pm and rurals 4pm ... frankly if they try to push that crap into our office in the summer the planners and royal mail will be told to go to f**k!!
"Vi har haft århundraden av kärlek och tillit till varandra."
clashcityrocker
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Post by clashcityrocker »

Godric wrote: no offence but doesn't the USO state after the revision is in town deliveries are to be no later than 3pm and rurals 4pm ... frankly if they try to push that crap into our office in the summer the planners and royal mail will be told to go to f**k!!
They are not suggesting delivering up until 6pm.
Collections after delivery.
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Godric
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Post by Godric »

clashcityrocker wrote:
Godric wrote: no offence but doesn't the USO state after the revision is in town deliveries are to be no later than 3pm and rurals 4pm ... frankly if they try to push that crap into our office in the summer the planners and royal mail will be told to go to f**k!!
They are not suggesting delivering up until 6pm.
Collections after delivery.
regardless they will still get the same answer from me
"Vi har haft århundraden av kärlek och tillit till varandra."
fishtank
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Post by fishtank »

Godric wrote: frankly if they try to push that crap into our office in the summer the planners and royal mail will be told to go to f**k!!
It's not about pushing anything in it's about looking at sensible options to maintain and hopefully create full-time jobs.
If the option is have a part-timer do the delivery and give the collection to a docket grabber on SA or create a proper full time hybrid job i know which one i would pick.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share