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NOW 10 O CLOCK START WITH COLLECTIONS
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keithposty
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NOW 10 O CLOCK START WITH COLLECTIONS
JUST HAD A DING DONG WITH THE PLANNERS
IT SEEMS THEY WANT TO MAKE A BULK OF THE RURAL JOBS 10 TO 6
THAT WAY YOU DO THE DELIVERY AND THEN DO A COLLECTION OR ONE OF THE SCEDULES AT THE END
ITS WAR
COMMENTS PEOPLE
IT SEEMS THEY WANT TO MAKE A BULK OF THE RURAL JOBS 10 TO 6
THAT WAY YOU DO THE DELIVERY AND THEN DO A COLLECTION OR ONE OF THE SCEDULES AT THE END
ITS WAR
COMMENTS PEOPLE
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clashcityrocker
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Re: NOW 10 O CLOCK START WITH COLLECTIONS
I can't see any justification for Scheduled Attendance o/t in offices that are struggling to maintain full-time jobs.
A situation where a full-timer gets a guaranteed amount of overtime each week simply means the part-timer on 30 hours/week is going to stay on 30 hours/week.
Hybrid duties are a way of protecting full time jobs but they aren't a way of protecting earnings.
If you can't do both I know which option I would choose.
The situation may be different in your office.
I know a 10-6 shift may be of interest to some.
A situation where a full-timer gets a guaranteed amount of overtime each week simply means the part-timer on 30 hours/week is going to stay on 30 hours/week.
Hybrid duties are a way of protecting full time jobs but they aren't a way of protecting earnings.
If you can't do both I know which option I would choose.
The situation may be different in your office.
I know a 10-6 shift may be of interest to some.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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keithposty
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Re: NOW 10 O CLOCK START WITH COLLECTIONS
I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING
the point is they should be making up the duties to a full delivery span, pegasus is comming out at 3 hour 15 which is garbage
it is just another way of taking hours out the office
we allready have 6 hybrid jobs
the point is they should be making up the duties to a full delivery span, pegasus is comming out at 3 hour 15 which is garbage
it is just another way of taking hours out the office
we allready have 6 hybrid jobs
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fishtank
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- Joined: 28 Sep 2007, 17:22
- Gender: Male
Re: NOW 10 O CLOCK START WITH COLLECTIONS
If the delivery element on a hybrid duty is unachievable the collection will fail.
Hybrids cannot "flex up" and should not be planned using the lowest traffic week unless there is a contingency plan in place to deal with excess delivery.
As far as having them i'm with Clash...jobs are the priority.
Hybrids cannot "flex up" and should not be planned using the lowest traffic week unless there is a contingency plan in place to deal with excess delivery.
As far as having them i'm with Clash...jobs are the priority.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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dvbuk55
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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- Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
- Gender: Male
Re: NOW 10 O CLOCK START WITH COLLECTIONS
I too agree with hybrid duties, though at the moment we don't have any, we have lost a number of SA collections. The problem is there are fewer and fewer people to do them because their duties don't enable them to get back on time, though some are cutting corners to be able to do them and there is an element of blind eye involved. Looked at realistically it would be possible to make some duties full time if they were hybridised.
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adrianjames
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- Gender: Male
Re: NOW 10 O CLOCK START WITH COLLECTIONS
GOOD IDEA.SOME STAFF WOULD LIKE THE IDEA OF THAT
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arnold cheshire
- Posts: 5309
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- Location: england
Re: NOW 10 O CLOCK START WITH COLLECTIONS
thats a lot we have 4 hybrid dutieskeithposty wrote:I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING
the point is they should be making up the duties to a full delivery span, pegasus is comming out at 3 hour 15 which is garbage
it is just another way of taking hours out the office
we allready have 6 hybrid jobs
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daveyeff
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- Joined: 12 Mar 2010, 19:38
- Gender: Male
Re: NOW 10 O CLOCK START WITH COLLECTIONS
and how would they do it with parknloop, i.e. the non driver. or is it just driver onlykeithposty wrote:JUST HAD A DING DONG WITH THE PLANNERS
IT SEEMS THEY WANT TO MAKE A BULK OF THE RURAL JOBS 10 TO 6
THAT WAY YOU DO THE DELIVERY AND THEN DO A COLLECTION OR ONE OF THE SCEDULES AT THE END
ITS WAR
COMMENTS PEOPLE
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fishtank
- Posts: 19732
- Joined: 28 Sep 2007, 17:22
- Gender: Male
Re: NOW 10 O CLOCK START WITH COLLECTIONS
In our office they are stand alone duties.daveyeff wrote: and how would they do it with parknloop, i.e. the non driver. or is it just driver only
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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Big Daz
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Re: NOW 10 O CLOCK START WITH COLLECTIONS
PT wanting to go FT is not in great demand amongst the PT in my D.O. I have one 30 hour member who wants to go FT he was FT but left for a while then came back last year on a 30 hour contract. We currently have two FT vacanies but RML are not going to move his hours up due to IWT figures and the belief they will get savings from the revision.
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arnold cheshire
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Re: NOW 10 O CLOCK START WITH COLLECTIONS
you have 6 hybrids so how can they have more 10 -till 6 are they going to double up on a collection sounds crazy . how many collections can a office have /????bringon4dayweeks wrote:thats a lot we have 4 hybrid dutieskeithposty wrote:I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING
the point is they should be making up the duties to a full delivery span, pegasus is comming out at 3 hour 15 which is garbage
it is just another way of taking hours out the office
we allready have 6 hybrid jobs
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Godric
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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- Joined: 17 Oct 2009, 12:08
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- Location: The Kingdom of Alba
Re: NOW 10 O CLOCK START WITH COLLECTIONS
no offence but doesn't the USO state after the revision is in town deliveries are to be no later than 3pm and rurals 4pm ... frankly if they try to push that crap into our office in the summer the planners and royal mail will be told to go to f**k!!keithposty wrote:JUST HAD A DING DONG WITH THE PLANNERS
IT SEEMS THEY WANT TO MAKE A BULK OF THE RURAL JOBS 10 TO 6
THAT WAY YOU DO THE DELIVERY AND THEN DO A COLLECTION OR ONE OF THE SCEDULES AT THE END
ITS WAR
COMMENTS PEOPLE
"Vi har haft århundraden av kärlek och tillit till varandra."
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clashcityrocker
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- Location: strummerville
Re: NOW 10 O CLOCK START WITH COLLECTIONS
They are not suggesting delivering up until 6pm.Godric wrote: no offence but doesn't the USO state after the revision is in town deliveries are to be no later than 3pm and rurals 4pm ... frankly if they try to push that crap into our office in the summer the planners and royal mail will be told to go to f**k!!
Collections after delivery.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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Godric
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Re: NOW 10 O CLOCK START WITH COLLECTIONS
regardless they will still get the same answer from meclashcityrocker wrote:They are not suggesting delivering up until 6pm.Godric wrote: no offence but doesn't the USO state after the revision is in town deliveries are to be no later than 3pm and rurals 4pm ... frankly if they try to push that crap into our office in the summer the planners and royal mail will be told to go to f**k!!
Collections after delivery.
"Vi har haft århundraden av kärlek och tillit till varandra."
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fishtank
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- Joined: 28 Sep 2007, 17:22
- Gender: Male
Re: NOW 10 O CLOCK START WITH COLLECTIONS
It's not about pushing anything in it's about looking at sensible options to maintain and hopefully create full-time jobs.Godric wrote: frankly if they try to push that crap into our office in the summer the planners and royal mail will be told to go to f**k!!
If the option is have a part-timer do the delivery and give the collection to a docket grabber on SA or create a proper full time hybrid job i know which one i would pick.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share