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Buddy Trays, what's the point?
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alloria
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Buddy Trays, what's the point?
That's pretty much it, can anyone please explain to me what the point is of these? They just seem like a total waste of time.
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Stormproof
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Re: Buddy Trays, what's the point?
??
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets
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Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
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TeeferTiger
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Re: Buddy Trays, what's the point?
Buddy Trays... doesn't he work at Birmingham MC?
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dvbuk55
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Re: Buddy Trays, what's the point?
Cuts down on the number of trays required over christmas, where two walks are put in a single tray, or three. CSS machines will cut down on that this year.alloria wrote:That's pretty much it, can anyone please explain to me what the point is of these? They just seem like a total waste of time.
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Judgee
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Re: Buddy Trays, what's the point?
We get these now. Wouldn't be such a bad idea if the post for the two rounds wasn't all mixed together. If they put one walks post on top of the other it would make more sense? 
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not me
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Re: Buddy Trays, what's the point?
Stormproof wrote:??
flats for walks
rather than a tray sorted per walk its sorted for 3 'buddys'
it makes no sense
we used to get a tray per walk
then 2 walks(sorta makes sense for P&L)
now its 3
soon it will be a row then they will just go back to manual
mind you its a win when you have an early starter who does the trays fo the other 2
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Stormproof
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Re: Buddy Trays, what's the point?
Thanks Custard.....never heard of it before & as you say makes no sense, typical RMcustard wrote:Stormproof wrote:??
flats for walks
rather than a tray sorted per walk its sorted for 3 'buddys'
it makes no sense
we used to get a tray per walk
then 2 walks(sorta makes sense for P&L)
now its 3
soon it will be a row then they will just go back to manual![]()
mind you its a win when you have an early starter who does the trays fo the other 2
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets
Illegitimi non carborundum
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets
Illegitimi non carborundum
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estelle
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Re: Buddy Trays, what's the point?
don't know the point in them and have often wondered. Even with the introduction of walk sequenced mail, we still get buddy trays.
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Judgee
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Re: Buddy Trays, what's the point?
estelle wrote:don't know the point in them and have often wondered. Even with the introduction of walk sequenced mail, we still get buddy trays.
Saves space in the back of the lorries when transporting the work to delivery offices. We used to get some trays sent to us with just a couple of letters in them, thats a lot of wasted space so putting them together cuts down on lorry trips!
LIke I said, good idea in theory they just need to stack the work in the boxes more logically rather than mix it all together which is just stupid!
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Stormproof
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Re: Buddy Trays, what's the point?
But the mail is dropping off, so there should be loads of space on lorriesJudgee wrote:estelle wrote:don't know the point in them and have often wondered. Even with the introduction of walk sequenced mail, we still get buddy trays.
Saves space in the back of the lorries when transporting the work to delivery offices. We used to get some trays sent to us with just a couple of letters in them, thats a lot of wasted space so putting them together cuts down on lorry trips!
LIke I said, good idea in theory they just need to stack the work in the boxes more logically rather than mix it all together which is just stupid!
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets
Illegitimi non carborundum
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets
Illegitimi non carborundum
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clashcityrocker
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Re: Buddy Trays, what's the point?
Buddy trays screw time out of the IPS.
They should disappear with sequencing but lo and behold - they aren't sequencing all the mail. Consequently there is no need to change start times. No need to have a walk sequenced revision. No need to pay out £800/head (pro rata)
This is the new relationship.
They should disappear with sequencing but lo and behold - they aren't sequencing all the mail. Consequently there is no need to change start times. No need to have a walk sequenced revision. No need to pay out £800/head (pro rata)
This is the new relationship.
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supersamuk
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Re: Buddy Trays, what's the point?
We've started to get trays with 4 walks together, and not segregated well with say ten letters for walk1 then ten for walk2 then some more for walk1 again 
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PhilthyPhil
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Re: Buddy Trays, what's the point?
I don't think you understand how buddy sorting works. They do not sort the letters/flats to each individual walk and then mix them into one tray, the have a single selection on the machine for those walks. Let me give you a simple example: say the MC serves DOs with 1000 walks and the machine has 200 selections, this would require 5 different walksorting plans to be run on the machine. If instead the mail was buddy sorted with five walks to a selection they would only require one plan. This saves time in the MC switching the machines between plans and clearing down each time.Judgee wrote:estelle wrote:don't know the point in them and have often wondered. Even with the introduction of walk sequenced mail, we still get buddy trays.
Saves space in the back of the lorries when transporting the work to delivery offices. We used to get some trays sent to us with just a couple of letters in them, thats a lot of wasted space so putting them together cuts down on lorry trips!
LIke I said, good idea in theory they just need to stack the work in the boxes more logically rather than mix it all together which is just stupid!
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Judgee
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Re: Buddy Trays, what's the point?
Ok Phil thanks for clearing that up!
In which case it's just a completely naff way of doing it with no better alternative method available and really it would be better off completely scrapped!
In which case it's just a completely naff way of doing it with no better alternative method available and really it would be better off completely scrapped!
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not me
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Re: Buddy Trays, what's the point?
PhilthyPhil wrote:I don't think you understand how buddy sorting works. They do not sort the letters/flats to each individual walk and then mix them into one tray, the have a single selection on the machine for those walks. Let me give you a simple example: say the MC serves DOs with 1000 walks and the machine has 200 selections, this would require 5 different walksorting plans to be run on the machine. If instead the mail was buddy sorted with five walks to a selection they would only require one plan. This saves time in the MC switching the machines between plans and clearing down each time.Judgee wrote:estelle wrote:don't know the point in them and have often wondered. Even with the introduction of walk sequenced mail, we still get buddy trays.
Saves space in the back of the lorries when transporting the work to delivery offices. We used to get some trays sent to us with just a couple of letters in them, thats a lot of wasted space so putting them together cuts down on lorry trips!
LIke I said, good idea in theory they just need to stack the work in the boxes more logically rather than mix it all together which is just stupid!
well thats the important thing isnt it?