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LONG & SHORTS AND MAX FINISH TIMES

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keithposty
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LONG & SHORTS AND MAX FINISH TIMES

Post by keithposty »

most of you will know ime giving our revision planner a real hard time by going through the six step revision process to the letter.

ime trying to give him a bloody nose over his comments on long and shorts according to traffic figures

i know that the max last delivery for town is 3 pm and rural is 4 pm according to the U.S.O.

i came across a thread or L.T.B. that stated even after the revision, start times should not be AFTER A 7 AM START
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do we have a link to that thread

many thanks
celerycelery
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Post by celerycelery »

is the 7am start for full time town walks, as some of our full time rurals start at 7.45am on a mon,tues and sat depending on day off.
keithposty
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this is what i am trying to confirm

is there an agreement on start times ref long and shorts

i was under the impression that delivery staff should start no later than 7 am

thats town and rural

the latest thing they are throwing at me say on town walks is the last letter is at three but you do 9 to 5 and do collections on the way back :so there
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Post by gb93 »

[quote="keithposty"]this is what i am trying to confirm

is there an agreement on start times ref long and shorts

i was under the impression that delivery staff should start no later than 7 am
The key word is SHOULD, That doesn't mean they can't & don't.
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keithposty
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Post by keithposty »

gray area then

is it in black and white on start times for delivery staff
superports
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Post by superports »

Check out the thread on this page, few lines below this thread, titled "changing times". Cheetah has posted info I think might help you.
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Post by Geezer »

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 08#p440072

National Agreement States
Page 17
Introduction And Key Objectives
It means creating a fresh role for Delivery employees through the introduction of flexible working practices, improved attendance patterns (including fewer Saturdays), a better work-life balance, and by continuing to provide reasonable levels of take home pay.

Page 24
Attendance Patterns and Duty Structures
It is jointly recognised that the end product of duty revisions and their successful deployment are paramount to the success of this agreement, employee and customer satisfaction and the future success of Royal Mail. This will be achieved where duty structures and attendance patterns are innovative and meet the aspirations and needs of both employees and the company.
Best practice in this area will be jointly discussed and shared at regional and national level and will be used as a source of information to assist others.
As part of the operational transformation the vast majority of full time delivery duties will start no later than 0700.
keithposty
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Post by keithposty »

just what the doctor ordered

many thanks
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Post by fishtank »

It also states that...
The vast majority of letter deliveries are planned to be completed by 1430 hours and most by 1400 hours.
It would be interesting to see if that holds water now.
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keithposty
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Post by keithposty »

i will be putting all this to the planners and dsm tomorow

watch this space
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So no latest start times for part timers, even those doing 35 hour weekly shift?
Lincox
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Post by Lincox »

Also another agreement that is open to RM abuse. THE VAST MAJORITY. No doubt your Dim/Planners will categorize your walks as being in the TINY MINORITY
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Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

keithposty wrote: i know that the max last delivery for town is 3 pm and rural is 4 pm according to the U.S.O.

thats actually incorrect, the USO is only 1 delivery per day to every delivery point, there is no part of the uso which states a latest time unfortunately
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Post by keithposty »

zx135 wrote:
keithposty wrote: i know that the max last delivery for town is 3 pm and rural is 4 pm according to the U.S.O.

thats actually incorrect, the USO is only 1 delivery per day to every delivery point, there is no part of the uso which states a latest time unfortunately
i must disagree on that by way of a freedom of information request on royal mail