changing times

[gunners1]

Monday, 5 o clock start changing to 6 30, mixed feelings lie in but later finish

[vigilante]

Monday, 5 o clock start changing to 6 30, mixed feelings lie in but later finish

Yea it's c**p mate.
You're lucky you've had 5 o'clock for so long.
We have gone from 5 to 6.45! And they will try for later in the methods revision!
But we'll see about that

[louielouie]

Will u get early shift payment protection under MTSF

[gunners1]

Will u get early shift payment protection under MTSF

yeah thats safe

[POSTMAN]

Why the 'drastic' change,revision?

[60091]

can't believe you guys are still on 5am starts! ,we been on 7am starts for 3 years now! no park&loop yet!!

[Cliff Clavin]

We have 2.45 finish Mon-Fri. 2.20 Sat

Start times:

Mon 7.15
Tues 7.30
Wed-Fri 6.40
Sat 6.30

This is on 39hr wk.

[borgpicard]

Monday, 5 o clock start changing to 6 30, mixed feelings lie in but later finish

Your lucky, we are on 0700 starts

[combo]

We have been 8-4 for the last 5 years. Yes we don't have 1 in 4 either.

[gunners1]

Why the 'drastic' change,revision?

i was 1of 5people starting at 5 rest of office was 6, now they have to cut sorting hours so i have to change

[19times]

I was going to post the same thread.

Dim told us all today that he's issuing 2 weeks notice all start times will be 30 mins later, to say the office was in uproar was an understatement.

I don't think we've heard the last of this.

[ruralrobin]

Our times changed from 7am to 7.20am a couple of years ago due to lorry getting here later from MC (we are very small office).
With sequence stuff starting at MC , our lino has said our start times might be changed again - 8.00 possibility because of even later lorry times. Is the 7.30 max later start I heard about just a national guideline or is the absolute max ?

[Cheetah]

Resist any start change times. Here is the unions position from Ref & Guid. BT 2010 Use it, put in the dissagreement. Later starts for RM come with dividends for it's employees, from their agreement with the union they come in when P&L is implemented along with less Saturdays worked, lump sum payment etc etc, don't allow them to cherry pick from the agreement..... Involve Area union that's what they are there for Good Luck


Innovative Attendance Patterns & Duty Structures

Royal Mail Position
Workplan being used as excuse. Delivery Offices being moved to 0700 or later starts. Royal Mail strategy from day one has been to undermine this aspect. Royal Mail state that 1 in 6 protects and provides for more full time duties that 1 in 4.

CWU Position
Members being deterred by misinformation produced by Royal Mail managers, resulting in not enough Saturdays off. Royal Mail need to supply statistics to CWU. Any member who wants more Saturdays off should be provided with them.

National Agreement States
Page 17
Introduction And Key Objectives
It means creating a fresh role for Delivery employees through the introduction of flexible working practices, improved attendance patterns (including fewer Saturdays), a better work-life balance, and by continuing to provide reasonable levels of take home pay.

Page 24
Attendance Patterns and Duty Structures
It is jointly recognised that the end product of duty revisions and their successful deployment are paramount to the success of this agreement, employee and customer satisfaction and the future success of Royal Mail. This will be achieved where duty structures and attendance patterns are innovative and meet the aspirations and needs of both employees and the company.
Best practice in this area will be jointly discussed and shared at regional and national level and will be used as a source of information to assist others.
As part of the operational transformation the vast majority of full time delivery duties will start no later than 0700.

Page 25
Family friendly duties and attendance patterns including religious holidays and requirements for time off will also form part of local discussions at the weekly resourcing meetings and during the revisions process.

Page 25
Saturday Attendances
In addition to the above it is jointly recognised that Saturday attendances and in particular the number of Saturdays worked require special attention in order to meet the aspirations of employees and the needs of the business.

In recognition of this Royal Mail and CWU commit to providing more Saturday off options as part of improved attendance patterns for delivery employees

Royal Mail and CWU commit to achieving at least 1 in 4 Saturdays off for the majority of employees (including reserves) during the roll out of the operational transformation programme. In some circumstances this may be exceeded utilising jointly identified options to provide 1 Saturday off in 2 or 3.
Progress on all the issues/objectives above will be jointly monitored and reviewed at national level on an ongoing basis.

CWU Response
No agreement should be given locally if the revision does not provide at least 1 in 4 Saturdays off and that is the wishes of the membership. Do not change Saturday attendances unless members get more Saturdays off. Register disagreement, where necessary unilaterally or on a Point Of Principle.

Workplan

Royal Mail Position
Royal Mail is misleading people on this. Misinformation is being used to defer start times in delivery.

CWU Position
Workplan is a failure. Workplan is supposed to support innovative attendance patterns not the other way round.


National Agreement States
Page 14
Workplan
To provide ongoing confidence, the roll-out of the new workplan and associated changes will be the subject of joint national reviews to establish that the operational assumptions within the workplan support the criteria detailed below. As part of these reviews both parties commit to make such improvements/adjustments as are necessary.
That mail arrivals are consistent with the transformation workplan and support and enable the attendance patterns and duty structures contained in the functional sections of this agreement to be delivered at local level.

CWU Response
Register disagreement over later starts. Hold them to the statement above and do not progress revisions unless this requirement is met at phase 1.