bullying & harrassment issue.

[daveyeff]

a colleague from a neighbouring office told me he had put a b&h allegation in against his dom. he said he,d been on the phone about it and they told him to leave it with them and they would be in touch. today he recieved a letter from human resources saying they didnt think the claim was suitable to stand as a b&h, and if he wanted to take it further he should do so as a grievance and not b&h. he said it seemed as if they were trying to protect the dom. is ''human resources'' not the recruiting arm of royal mail. ?? i would,ve thought the letter would,ve been from the b&h helpline. if they are part of royal mail then surely they would be biased towards the company. can anyone shed light on it.

[hantsman]

a colleague from a neighbouring office told me he had put a b&h allegation in against his dom. he said he,d been on the phone about it and they told him to leave it with them and they would be in touch. today he recieved a letter from human resources saying they didnt think the claim was suitable to stand as a b&h, and if he wanted to take it further he should do so as a grievance and not b&h. he said it seemed as if they were trying to protect the dom. is ''human resources'' not the recruiting arm of royal mail. ?? i would,ve thought the letter would,ve been from the b&h helpline. if they are part of royal mail then surely they would be biased towards the company. can anyone shed light on it.

You need to file the B & H form yourself, ie direct without HR input. Ring the B & H helpline and get the form sent to you.

[daveyeff]

he did that.,,,,he rang the b&h helpline, was on the phone for nearly 40mins, and the guy sent him a form out, he,s filled it in, sent it off, now he gets this reply from,,,,''human resources''. sounds like theres a rabbit off to me, but what do i know?

[parcelboy]

a colleague from a neighbouring office told me he had put a b&h allegation in against his dom. he said he,d been on the phone about it and they told him to leave it with them and they would be in touch. today he recieved a letter from human resources saying they didnt think the claim was suitable to stand as a b&h, and if he wanted to take it further he should do so as a grievance and not b&h. he said it seemed as if they were trying to protect the dom. is ''human resources'' not the recruiting arm of royal mail. ?? i would,ve thought the letter would,ve been from the b&h helpline. if they are part of royal mail then surely they would be biased towards the company. can anyone shed light on it.

HR dont have a clue on B+H but what ican tell you they let DOMS know when you are chasing a greivance to be resolved.I was dismissed for Wilful Delay shortly after they think they have got away with it but believe me no one who lies and colludes to get me sacked has got it coming to them through the courts of course .Just for the record i filed a B+H complaint first .Then the same individual who sacked me 6 months later asked me to withdraw the greivance.In response to the question of the company being biased thats a big fat yes .Corrupt from the top down to LINOS/DOMS

[fishtank]

You need to file the B & H form yourself, ie direct without HR input. Ring the B & H helpline and get the form sent to you.

Download the H1 form by clicking here http://www.rmgbh.co.uk/docs/H1-Complaint-Form.xls" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

if you wish to raise an official complaint about the bullying and harassment you feel you are experiencing you can do so by downloading and completing the H1 form and forwarding it to:
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ER Operations Team
Royal Mail
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Sheffield
S98 6HR

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[fishtank]

The Gateway Team
This team has responsibility for acknowledgement all complaints and identifying appropriate investigating managers. They take ownership of every case, monitoring its progress alongside supporting the investigators through providing advice and guidance on the policy and procedure. They record and track cases, process appeal requests, follow up any investigating manager recommendations and seek updates on progress 8 weeks after case conclusions.

For contact with the ER Operations team.
FREEPOST
ER Operations Team
Admin Room
Pond Street
Sheffield
S98 6HR
Email address: HRSCGateway@royalmail.com

[hantsman]

he did that.,,,,he rang the b&h helpline, was on the phone for nearly 40mins, and the guy sent him a form out, he,s filled it in, sent it off, now he gets this reply from,,,,''human resources''. sounds like theres a rabbit off to me, but what do i know?

mmmmmmmmmmmmm....... is that form sent from Rugby? Something is not right somewhere in this!

[hantsman]

a colleague from a neighbouring office told me he had put a b&h allegation in against his dom. he said he,d been on the phone about it and they told him to leave it with them and they would be in touch. today he recieved a letter from human resources saying they didnt think the claim was suitable to stand as a b&h, and if he wanted to take it further he should do so as a grievance and not b&h. he said it seemed as if they were trying to protect the dom. is ''human resources'' not the recruiting arm of royal mail. ?? i would,ve thought the letter would,ve been from the b&h helpline. if they are part of royal mail then surely they would be biased towards the company. can anyone shed light on it.

HR dont have a clue on B+H but what ican tell you they let DOMS know when you are chasing a greivance to be resolved.I was dismissed for Wilful Delay shortly after they think they have got away with it but believe me no one who lies and colludes to get me sacked has got it coming to them through the courts of course .Just for the record i filed a B+H complaint first .Then the same individual who sacked me 6 months later asked me to withdraw the greivance.In response to the question of the company being biased thats a big fat yes .Corrupt from the top down to LINOS/DOMS

Its still within RM im afraid, RM are corrupt from Moya downwards, don't believe for 1 second she does not know what is going on, she has a another agenda. This proberly will be her last full time job, she will have her exit to leave RM already planned.

[daveyeff]

i get the feeling that the b&h procedure is similar if not exactly the same as ''the press complaints'' authority. you complain about the press, and your complaint is investigated by,,,,,,,THE PRESS. you do like wise with royal mail, and it gets investigated by,,,,,,ROYAL MAIL. it should be someone totally independent and unbiased.

[REDLETTER]

recieved a letter from human resources saying they didnt think the claim was suitable to stand as a b&h, and if he wanted to take it further he should do so as a grievance and not b&h.

I had exactly the same sent to me, I'd already lodged a grievance that was ignored! What a bunch of wasters HR are!

[fishtank]

it should be someone totally independent and unbiased.

Is the service independent? Yes, it is. The service is run by an independent counselling provider totally separate from the Royal Mail Group. This allows them to give the caller impartial and unbiased advice, professional support and guidance.

[Lincox]

This is now becoming normal practice for HR to downgrade B&H to a Grievance issue and they say this is because it is down to procedural issues. They do not consider victimisation, singling someone out, as being B&H. You have to have been physically manhandled or sworn at for them to consider a B&H case against a manager. Apparently by downgrading they are making the company look far better as far as it,s industrial relations are concerned, and no doubt this is a result of the world class mail initiatives.

[daveyeff]

it should be someone totally independent and unbiased.

Is the service independent? Yes, it is. The service is run by an independent counselling provider totally separate from the Royal Mail Group. This allows them to give the caller impartial and unbiased advice, professional support and guidance.

the email adress arouses suspicions hrscgateway@,,,,,,,,ROYALMAIL.COM. its probably moya on the other end of the phone

[flaminmoses]

a colleague from a neighbouring office told me he had put a b&h allegation in against his dom. he said he,d been on the phone about it and they told him to leave it with them and they would be in touch. today he recieved a letter from human resources saying they didnt think the claim was suitable to stand as a b&h, and if he wanted to take it further he should do so as a grievance and not b&h. he said it seemed as if they were trying to protect the dom. is ''human resources'' not the recruiting arm of royal mail. ?? i would,ve thought the letter would,ve been from the b&h helpline. if they are part of royal mail then surely they would be biased towards the company. can anyone shed light on it.

HR dont have a clue on B+H but what ican tell you they let DOMS know when you are chasing a greivance to be resolved.I was dismissed for Wilful Delay shortly after they think they have got away with it but believe me no one who lies and colludes to get me sacked has got it coming to them through the courts of course .Just for the record i filed a B+H complaint first .Then the same individual who sacked me 6 months later asked me to withdraw the greivance.In response to the question of the company being biased thats a big fat yes .Corrupt from the top down to LINOS/DOMS

i put in a b@h but also was turned down by coton house.
i was also then sacked for willfull delay even though i had knee issues which are still giving me gip.
i lost my appeal this week and have a tribunal in feb.

[hans solo]

if you get harrassed out in street or at home what would you do
report bully to police of course
so why not charge people at work no difference