BSi,planned motivated,no stress or fatigue.

[keithposty]

with royal mail railroading the revisions at 100 % bsi, and taking no account of fatigue etc in there robotic world

what is the best way to go on the attack with reference stress etc

all i have is the performance standards agreement

but that is done over a minute only, not sorting say 34 items a minute over say 40 minutes

DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN BLACK AND WHITE ON THIS TO THROW AT MANAGERS

how can they average say 40 minutes work over the findings on a one minute prep test

[pinstripe]

You could do what they do and just make it up on the spot, if they want it in writing, just tell them you'll get back to them.

[Martin Walsh]

You could give your manager a copy of the national BT2010 agreement and ask him to point out where it mentions 100 BSI and where it states an office has to agree a revision linked to 100 BSi.

Equally you could just say no we are not agreeing a revision and we will go to disagreement until your office is satisfied the revision is what you believe is a good deal.

[daveyeff]

You could give your manager a copy of the national BT2010 agreement and ask him to point out where it mentions 100 BSI and where it states an office has to agree a revision linked to 100 BSi.

Equally you could just say no we are not agreeing a revision and we will go to disagreement until your office is satisfied the revision is what you believe is a good deal.

our rep says the revisions are planned at 100% bsi.

[Martin Walsh]

Well your rep is wrong ! The cwu have never agreed 100 bsi and bob Gibson has told every branch that and it's even it his recent summary on delivery issues .

[keithposty]

but what is the current office performance

mine is 60 %

yes 60%

i have demanded an improvement of 5 % a year to reach the 100 % bsi target

that will take 8 years

that soon shut them up

[daveyeff]

Well your rep is wrong ! The cwu have never agreed 100 bsi and bob Gibson has told every branch that and it's even it his recent summary on delivery issues .

i thought he was, but he was adamant, i cant understand if he knows he,s wrong/lying. however, he is forever in the doms office having coffee, or joking and laughing in the isles with him. must,ve sold his soul,,,,,or us doon the suwannee

[keithposty]

but a complaint in to the branch secretary

[daveyeff]

but a complaint in to the branch secretary

im going to email the branch keith.

[fishtank]

Well your rep is wrong ! The cwu have never agreed 100 bsi and bob Gibson has told every branch that and it's even it his recent summary on delivery issues .

Well that's not really 100% true is it?
The CWU agreed to using these revisions to move towards 100BSI.
Not in one step granted...but that is the final target.
Tell me dingo Acas consider that when moving from 75BSI to 100BSI... the incentive used should increase your earning by approx a third.
Aren't we missing something?

[daveyeff]

aye, money,,,,,working harder= more pay

[keithposty]

when people have there weekly revision planning meetings with the planners,dom,dsm,etc

why is the area rep not involved also

they have been trying for the last 18 months in my office to bring in the revision

still at stage 2

the div rep is now involved as they will not deal with my stage 3 disagreement

such fun

[dvbuk55]

Neither is it all about agreement - turning a blind eye helps.

[north london driver]

when people have there weekly revision planning meetings with the planners,dom,dsm,etc

why is the area rep not involved also

they have been trying for the last 18 months in my office to bring in the revision

still at stage 2

the div rep is now involved as they will not deal with my stage 3 disagreement

such fun

now that is what i like to see still at stage two after 18 months.yet every week
on this site you hear of revisions being put in at offices why do reps sign off everthing.
the longer you dont agree to revisions the worst the managers become.
stress them out and they will take e.v.r or be moved (managers have no friends).

[fishtank]

the longer you dont agree to revisions the worst the managers become.

I'm not condoning reps "overeagerness" to agree revisions though a lot of these revisions seem to have had at least some "persuasion" from Area and above...why i don't know.
What you also have to understand is that the net result of stalling revisions will not necessarily be good revisions but the watering down of the revision process altogether.
We've already seen that with the extension of the BTA into what looks like 2015 and later starts being bought for revision payments without the benefits to members that delivery methods,new attendance patterns and the shorter working week brings.
The longer the revision process drags out the more chance you will have of being caught in the nuclear option which will come when RM is privatised,changes imposed not negotiated and the union effectively sidelined.
It's not a pretty picture i'm painting but it is realistic.
We will be unskilled labour in a world full of unskilled labour.
The changes will be rapid and severe and no amount of union blustering will save us unless the membership can be organised and galvanised to fight.
Can i see that happening with the leadership we have and the legacy of the "deal of the century"?
No.