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Part timers losing hours to get 1 in 4 Saturday's off

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Beamer
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Part timers losing hours to get 1 in 4 Saturday's off

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Part time staff in our office are being told that if they want 1 in 4 Saturday's off they will have to lose hours. Staff that are on 30 hours per week are being told that they will have to drop to 23 hours if they want the 1 in 4. Where as if they stay as they are (rolling day off) there is the possibility, and I stress just a possibility, that they might get offered full time. Surely this isn't fair. I can't see the CWU agreeing to that. I would have thought that they got the 1 in 4 with at least keeping the same amount of hours.
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Re: Part timers losing hours to get 1 in 4 Saturday's off

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Bollocks - I'm on 30 hours and have 1 in 4 off.

Trying it on aren't they?
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But it would also depend on what your f/t to p/t ratio currently is and what delivery span is being discussed.

The 1 in 4 Saturdays isn't free of charge.
It has to be self funded.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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There should be no part-timers in deliveries, it's not a part-time job.
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DirtyHarry wrote:There should be no part-timers in deliveries, it's not a part-time job.
I agree Harry but try telling RM that! They're doing pretty well out of the deal...as we've discussed many times on the Site. The only Light at the end of the Tunnel , seems to be the fact that Everyone's not just getting Feed Up with the current situation...but they're actually becoming Physically Knackered! :sad:

Christmas should be interesting what with a lot of our FTers saying, "Enough is Enough" (we'll see :whistle ) and a lot of our PTers getting used to having their hours cut back when it suits RM. (Many have other PT jobs) Just work "Properly" guys and watch the system crumble, and also have enough energy left to enjoy Your Christmas with your Family! :Very Happy
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Re: Part timers losing hours to get 1 in 4 Saturday's off

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DirtyHarry wrote:There should be no part-timers in deliveries, it's not a part-time job.
Part timers on 25 hour contracts are being told to go in at 6 to prep a whole duty and parcels, but they then get dragged onto ip for an hour. They're not getting out 'till 11.30 and getting back at 5.00 :arrrghhh

One bloke got back at 7.00 (pm) :left:
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fullbag wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:There should be no part-timers in deliveries, it's not a part-time job.
Part timers on 25 hour contracts are being told to go in at 6 to prep a whole duty and parcels, but they then get dragged onto ip for an hour. They're not getting out 'till 11.30 and getting back at 5.00 :arrrghhh

One bloke got back at 7.00 (pm) :left:
Doesn't USO state that it needs to be delievered before 3?
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kawoxux wrote:
fullbag wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:There should be no part-timers in deliveries, it's not a part-time job.
Part timers on 25 hour contracts are being told to go in at 6 to prep a whole duty and parcels, but they then get dragged onto ip for an hour. They're not getting out 'till 11.30 and getting back at 5.00 :arrrghhh

One bloke got back at 7.00 (pm) :left:
Doesn't USO state that it needs to be delievered before 3?
No http://www.consumerfocus.org.uk/get-adv ... -questions" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Royal Mail is under no obligation to deliver mail at any specific time, although they do set themselves target time spans. It is important to note these are aims and not guaranteed delivery times. Royal Mail aims to deliver mail by 2.00 pm in urban areas and 3.00 pm in rural areas.
Obviously Postwatch have not updated their website with the new times.
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Post by kawoxux »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
kawoxux wrote:
fullbag wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:There should be no part-timers in deliveries, it's not a part-time job.
Part timers on 25 hour contracts are being told to go in at 6 to prep a whole duty and parcels, but they then get dragged onto ip for an hour. They're not getting out 'till 11.30 and getting back at 5.00 :arrrghhh

One bloke got back at 7.00 (pm) :left:
Doesn't USO state that it needs to be delievered before 3?
No http://www.consumerfocus.org.uk/get-adv ... -questions" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Royal Mail is under no obligation to deliver mail at any specific time, although they do set themselves target time spans. It is important to note these are aims and not guaranteed delivery times. Royal Mail aims to deliver mail by 2.00 pm in urban areas and 3.00 pm in rural areas.
Obviously Postwatch have not updated their website with the new times.
Ah OK. I always wondered about this, cos RM always quote 3pm for Town and 4pm for Rurals as thought thats when it has to be done (look at the twitter feed, for instance, saw this yesterday)

"@RoyalMail Royal Mail
@Mansun4eva We start our deliveries from 7am, so it could be anytine from then to 3pm."

Implies that it has to be done by 3pm. Don't know how to direclty link to specific "tweets" but its from yesterday, scroll down (quite a long way).
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Dorset Plodder wrote:
I agree Harry but try telling RM that! They're doing pretty well out of the deal...as we've discussed many times on the Site. The only Light at the end of the Tunnel , seems to be the fact that Everyone's not just getting Feed Up with the current situation...but they're actually becoming Physically Knackered! :sad:

Christmas should be interesting what with a lot of our FTers saying, "Enough is Enough" (we'll see :whistle ) and a lot of our PTers getting used to having their hours cut back when it suits RM. (Many have other PT jobs) Just work "Properly" guys and watch the system crumble, and also have enough energy left to enjoy Your Christmas with your Family! :Very Happy
Agree with what you say, mate.
I will go further though, senior management are lying toads, and that's why we have this "part-time" farce in almost every delivery office in the land.
Senior management are also out to offend, insult, and basically disrespect every postman/woman in the British Isles, and succeeding too. :evil/mad
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fullbag wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:There should be no part-timers in deliveries, it's not a part-time job.
Part timers on 25 hour contracts are being told to go in at 6 to prep a whole duty and parcels, but they then get dragged onto ip for an hour. They're not getting out 'till 11.30 and getting back at 5.00 :arrrghhh

One bloke got back at 7.00 (pm) :left:
Like I said earlier, it's not a part-time job. We know it, senior management know it, even educated fleas know it, let's do it, let's knock some common sense into their heads. :Very Happy