28 days notice of change of hours?? True?

[POSTMAN]

Read this!
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Where do we stand regarding the 28day rule

Means absolutely nothing in your case,they are doing what they want,it's EA all the way with your place,unbelievable.

[keithposty]

well he is in breach of variouse acts under the employment rights act for a start

remind him that your ofice will bring a class action under an et1 claim and civil action under the employment rights act

no consultation period for a start

he is in breach of every bodies contract of employment

you will all be able to claim constructive dismissal as he has broken an express term in your contract of employment,
(agreed hours of work/job discription) and that the employer has acted in way that has destroyed the trust between you

custom and practice dictates for example what time your duty starts, say 6 am, to move that to say 7 am would need a local agreement.

no negotiation on equality impact assessments

local agreement as well as national agreements are the only time would over ride statute legislation

speak to acas on the phone

[keithposty]

yes they can change your hours but

BY AGREEMENT AND CONSULTATION

TRY THE TRADE UNION AND LABOUR RELATIONS CONSILDATION ACT 1992

industrial relations frame work

equaltity impact assessmants

etc etc

[keithposty]

remember

local as well as national agreements are the only time that will overide statute provision

[POSTMAN]

7. RESOLVING LOCAL DISAGREEMENTS
STAGE 1….
The parties will review the statement which sets out their respective positions and views and, within a week, will conduct full, free and frank discussions with the objective of reaching agreement.

8. STAGE 2…
Failing agreement at Stage One the parties will, within one further week, identify precisely the issue[s] of disagreement, formally register this disagreement and meet to draw up an updated statement of their positions and views. This statement amplified by any arguments which either side wishes to put forward in support of its case, will be forwarded to the Divisional Headquarters and the CWU Divisional representative. Where there are questions of interpretation or clarification of national agreements, they will be pursued in line with paragraph 12 below.

ACHIEVING LOCAL AGREEMENT

Note: If, for any reason, either party refuses to participate in Stage One or Stage Two of the procedure, the other party may refer its statement and supporting case unilaterally.

9. STAGE 3…

a. within two weeks of the statement of the case being sent to them, the area manager, area representative, divisional headquarters representative and a divisional CWU representative will meet with full authority to reach agreement on the issue.

This meeting may end in :an agreement [signed by the local manager, the local CWU representative, the Royal Mail Divisional representative and the CWU Divisional Representative].
A formula which provides a basis for the resumption of negotiations between the original negotiating parties, or a failure to reach agreement, in which case the procedure will be regarded as exhausted.

b. in those cases in which a formula is agreed for the resumption of negotiations at the original level, the parties will try to reach agreement within a further two weeks. Failing agreement at the end of two weeks, the procedure will be regarded as exhausted [unless the original formula agreed at this stage calls for a further Stage Three meeting].

c. in all cases where the procedure is exhausted without agreement, it will be the responsibility of the party raising the issue to advise the other of its intentions.

d. until the procedure has been exhausted there shall be no industrial action of any kind by Union members. For its part, Royal Mail will continue to apply national and local agreements which are already in place or have been agreed for implementation [or, where there is no recorded agreement, whatever practice has been in place for at least one working week immediately prior to Stage One being entered into]. The only exception to this rule is where an urgent operational, health, safety or legal requirement cannot be delayed. In such circumstances the requirement will be fully explained immediately to the local CWU Representatives and employees concerned. Either party may subsequently review the circumstances leading to the action and propose how to deal with such
cases in future.

Obviously the office has to register disagreement to kick the 28 days off not lie back and take it.
28 days is the minimum time frame to exhaust the disagreement procedure.
As long as the office enters disagreement immediately a change is proposed RM are bound by it's terms otherwise the whole office could go to a tribunal and RM would get screwed for not following it's own agreed procedures.

[mailmonkey]

Don't get your hopes up about the reps, specially the heavyweight ones turning up...

The higher up the CWU, the more we got bullied by them, abused, lied to, until we signed it off.

Complete joke.

The CWU know full well RM are walking all over us and the agreement. They know worloads are unachievable. They are still enabling RM in bringing this shitstorm in.