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reasons to change start times

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gerardy
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reasons to change start times

Post by gerardy »

Are there any reasons for changing start times if after having a WSM revision the mail still arrives at the same time as at present?

Can RM do this?
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aint rocket science put in disagreement ffs
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Post by fishtank »

Workplan

Royal Mail Position
Royal Mail is misleading people on this. Misinformation is being used to defer start times in delivery.
CWU Position
Workplan is a failure. Workplan supports innovative attendance patterns not the other way round. Manual mail is generally available about 04:45 for transfer to Delivery Offices.

National Agreement StatesPage 14 Workplan
To provide ongoing confidence, the roll-out of the new workplan and associated changes will be the subject of joint national reviews to establish that the operational assumptions within the workplan support the criteria detailed below. As part of these reviews both parties commit to make such improvements/adjustments as are necessary.
That mail arrivals are consistent with the transformation workplan and support and enable the attendance patterns and duty structures contained in the functional sections of this agreement to be delivered at local level.

CWU Response
Register disagreement over later starts. Hold them to the statement above and do not progress revisions unless this requirement is met at phase 1

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gaffers gimp
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Post by gaffers gimp »

How about if Regional Rep has agreed to a release of £200 to change attendance in line with 7:00 - 15:00.
Management want it in a 6 week period but I havent agreed it locally.
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Post by clashcityrocker »

gaffers gimp wrote:How about if Regional Rep has agreed to a release of £200 to change attendance in line with 7:00 - 15:00.
Management want it in a 6 week period but I havent agreed it locally.
It means your Regional rep is a Divi.
Unless he has managed to negotiate you an extra £200 over the £1000 in Transformation Lump Sums we are all due. But I doubt it.
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gaffers gimp
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Post by gaffers gimp »

Yes hes a Divisional Rep.
As Delivery Revisions are slow in being implemented he negotiated £200 out of the £800 to be released so that we could change our attendance times. This is because CSS mail will be coming later, still had no actual timing for my office.
The rumour started that I had actually agreed implementation in 6 weeks, previous rep thinks I should stick to National Agreements.
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Post by clashcityrocker »

Your Divi Rep is a divvy.
If you change the start times:
Are Family Friendly duties being proposed for anyone who will have child care issues with a 3pm finish?
Are you getting more Saturdays off to compensate for the later Saturdays?
How will 1pm Special deliveries be resourced?
Are you really going to change your start times in December?

If you get walk sequenced mail you should have a revision. That revision entitles you to £800 and the 39hr week. (2.5% pay rise)
Otherwise all you are doing is selling your Saturdays for £200. I bet the Divi Rep isn't selling his Saturdays so cheaply. He should be ashamed.
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