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What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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Jenny Manchester
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What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Post by Jenny Manchester »

Hi guys got a question. My partner works in the same office as me and has just returned to work from a six week absence and is now on light duties killing off etc, etc.
Yesterday and today the manager told him he cant go home till his hours are up finishing at 2 45pm yet other posties including myself are coming back 30 minutes to a hour some days (when its light) and going home.
I know we have to work our hours but why can the posties go home and my fella cant? The top and bottom to the story is if there is work (killing off) for my fella between 2 and 2 45 there is work for the posties that come back early.
Management contradicting themselves..
What he is more annoyed about is how posties take the mick waving at him when their going home..
Cliff Clavin
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Re: What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Post by Cliff Clavin »

If he hasn't taken meal relief, he should be allowed to add this on at end providing duties are completed.
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Re: What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

Jenny Manchester wrote:Hi guys got a question. My partner works in the same office as me and has just returned to work from a six week absence and is now on light duties killing off etc, etc.
Yesterday and today the manager told him he cant go home till his hours are up finishing at 2 45pm yet other posties including myself are coming back 30 minutes to a hour some days (when its light) and going home.
I know we have to work our hours but why can the posties go home and my fella cant? The top and bottom to the story is if there is work (killing off) for my fella between 2 and 2 45 there is work for the posties that come back early.
Management contradicting themselves..
What he is more annoyed about is how posties take the mick waving at him when their going home..
I would wave at them as they leave when its raining cats and dogs.

Now officially RM are meant to meant to make you work all your paid hours but thats up to management and I would advise you and hubby not to let it get you down. The reason they are probably doing it is because some managers within Royal Mail are petty and see this as a way of getting posties back who have caused them extra work by going sick.

Officially I think he may have a case for a grievance, but does he really want to go down that route.

My advice would be to join in the banter with the lads, ignore the managers pettiness as much as possible, as if he pushes it too much they may start to enforce "work paid hours" on everyone or just him when h does return to full duties.

Some thinking ahead for both of you but remember - Noli nothis permittere te terere (Never let the bastards wear you down)
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Re: What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Post by bensonhedge »

If it was my partner who had to stay at work and i got to go home to an empty house and some peace and quiet...i,d take that as a little brucey bonus :dance
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Re: What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Post by CharlesSpooner »

Cliff Clavin wrote:If he hasn't taken meal relief, he should be allowed to add this on at end providing duties are completed.
Duties been completed or not has feck-all to do with being able to take a meal relief :dance
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Post by Lincox »

Working your paid hours indoors is surely a small short term price to pay for not having to trudge around a walk for several hours especially in todays raw winds.
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Post by krussel »

I was on light duties for weeks back in the very late 90's and in those days delivery staff were going home around 11am but i was there till 1pm. It stung like hell but what can you do when your trying to hang on to a job :d'oh!
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Re: What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Post by not me »

Jenny Manchester wrote:Hi guys got a question. My partner works in the same office as me and has just returned to work from a six week absence and is now on light duties killing off etc, etc.
Yesterday and today the manager told him he cant go home till his hours are up finishing at 2 45pm yet other posties including myself are coming back 30 minutes to a hour some days (when its light) and going home.
I know we have to work our hours but why can the posties go home and my fella cant? The top and bottom to the story is if there is work (killing off) for my fella between 2 and 2 45 there is work for the posties that come back early.
Management contradicting themselves..
What he is more annoyed about is how posties take the mick waving at him when their going home..
do a walk and finish early(not in our office with the lapsing shafting)
or go on light duties and work a full shift
what do you want?
Are you seriously saying you expect someone on light duties to do less hours* simply because its not fair?
(*excluding phased returns to work)
perhaps you could offer to do extra lapsing so you and your partner can go home together?
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Post by IloveMYredTROLLEY! »

This thread screams discrimination to me!

If someone on light duties is indoors and delivering posties come back early and are still allowed to leave the depot early taking account of their meal relief allowance (which should not be taken at the end of the shift anyway), surely those light duty people are perfectly allowed to walk out the door at the same time as the first delivering postie leaves for home?

Managers surely cannot be allowed to select which staff get an early finish and which must do work until their contracted finish time? If the managers are stupid enough to let any staff go early, despite the nationally agreed "work all your daily hours" routine that kicked in over 18 months ago, then all depot staff have that right.
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Re: What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Post by Judgee »

Officially we all work to our time.

This is a case of delivery staff going out and finishing early as a bonus to them, not your other half having to work til time as a punishment to him!

So what time should he be allowed to leave? When the first person finishes delivering his round, when the last person finishes his round? Or should all the people who have delivered a round be made to sit in and wait with him?

Time to get real, if your manager says work til your time there ain't bugger all you can do about it! When I was on rehabilitation I had to stay in the office til finishing time and this was before they decided they wanted everyone to work to time. Sitting in the office is a complete breeze compared to going out on a walk, he should be happy they haven't pushed him out the door on deliveries yet. I'm pretty sure they'd make people go out with a broken leg in my office now if they thought they could get away with it! :hmmmm

If this is all you have to moan about then you are very lucky indeed! :speak to the hand
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Re: What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Post by DB1100 »

Just tell him to suck it up,why drop everybody in it for the sake of half an hour or so.The pair of you are going to be very popular if because of your moaning everybody has to stay behind its not going to be forever is it?
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Cliff Clavin
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Re: What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Post by Cliff Clavin »

CharlesSpooner wrote:
Cliff Clavin wrote:If he hasn't taken meal relief, he should be allowed to add this on at end providing duties are completed.
Duties been completed or not has feck-all to do with being able to take a meal relief :dance
I meant if he hadn't already took it, he could take it at the end of shift and skip out with his jolly colleagues,.
Eric Cantona
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Re: What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Post by Eric Cantona »

Cliff Clavin wrote:
CharlesSpooner wrote:
Cliff Clavin wrote:If he hasn't taken meal relief, he should be allowed to add this on at end providing duties are completed.
Duties been completed or not has feck-all to do with being able to take a meal relief :dance
I meant if he hadn't already took it, he could take it at the end of shift and skip out with his jolly colleagues,.
I'm confused here Cliff? if his mates has had their break and he has had his the post says the posties can go home but not him. Whats the difference?
Cliff Clavin
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Re: What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Post by Cliff Clavin »

Eric Cantona wrote:
Cliff Clavin wrote:
CharlesSpooner wrote:
Cliff Clavin wrote:If he hasn't taken meal relief, he should be allowed to add this on at end providing duties are completed.
Duties been completed or not has feck-all to do with being able to take a meal relief :dance
I meant if he hadn't already took it, he could take it at the end of shift and skip out with his jolly colleagues,.
I'm confused here Cliff? if his mates has had their break and he has had his the post says the posties can go home but not him. Whats the difference?
There should be no difference mate, he should get to go home too.

I was just querying whether he had took meal relief or not.
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Re: What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Post by Eric Cantona »

Cliff Clavin wrote:If he hasn't taken meal relief, he should be allowed to add this on at end providing duties are completed.
They both should take meal reliefs and not add them at the end..