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I.W.T STARTING TOMOROW, NO SIGN OFF
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keithposty
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I.W.T STARTING TOMOROW, NO SIGN OFF
comments please people
my office have the planners in at the moment, ime on the sick at the moment due to a knee op
the rep has just informed me that the planners want to commence the inward work tool tomorow on the sly.
the iwt has not been signed off by myself or the ir rep
before i get on the phone i would appreciate some comments, i am not known for being diplomatic
they are stating that duty structures have not changed, only rural duties will be doubling up, ie, one sorts two frames while the other does ips
also
they are stating the prep rate for a 48 box fitting is 34 items a minute
is this correct and has it been agreed by headquarters
do we have a full list of prep rates for rm 2000, 48 box fitting etc that have been agreed by royal mail and the cwu
i know what i have to do but would like some sort of confirmation and do we have any threads on this
my office have the planners in at the moment, ime on the sick at the moment due to a knee op
the rep has just informed me that the planners want to commence the inward work tool tomorow on the sly.
the iwt has not been signed off by myself or the ir rep
before i get on the phone i would appreciate some comments, i am not known for being diplomatic
they are stating that duty structures have not changed, only rural duties will be doubling up, ie, one sorts two frames while the other does ips
also
they are stating the prep rate for a 48 box fitting is 34 items a minute
is this correct and has it been agreed by headquarters
do we have a full list of prep rates for rm 2000, 48 box fitting etc that have been agreed by royal mail and the cwu
i know what i have to do but would like some sort of confirmation and do we have any threads on this
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POSTMAN
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Re: I.W.T STARTING TOMOROW, NO SIGN OFF
Correct,but for 1 minute,not through a whole shift.they are stating the prep rate for a 48 box fitting is 34 items a minute
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=37712" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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POSTMAN
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Re: I.W.T STARTING TOMOROW, NO SIGN OFF
This thread gives some good info,especially Clash's post...
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 42&t=38432" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Don't tell Clash i sent you,he may want his Avatar back.
Will also move this to the 2010 forum.
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 42&t=38432" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Don't tell Clash i sent you,he may want his Avatar back.
Will also move this to the 2010 forum.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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POSTMAN
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Re: I.W.T STARTING TOMOROW, NO SIGN OFF
Also have you guys had IWT training? If not,demand it before you go any further.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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keithposty
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Re: I.W.T STARTING TOMOROW, NO SIGN OFF
ihe ir rep is having weekly meetings but it is not what is being said is the problem
ive asked for a copy of the tmi
the codes used in the iwt on the duty planner and the time spans. the duty structure 318, is being made up into 10 minute blocks
they are still to be released
they are trying to bring in the revision within 10 weeks
ime keeping up to speed the best i can but ime rercovering from a knee operation at the moment and am on crutches so i have one hand tied behind my back/
i am worried that they will try and bring things inn behind my back as i am a right thorn in there side as i have a diploma in employment law,
ive asked for a copy of the tmi
the codes used in the iwt on the duty planner and the time spans. the duty structure 318, is being made up into 10 minute blocks
they are still to be released
they are trying to bring in the revision within 10 weeks
ime keeping up to speed the best i can but ime rercovering from a knee operation at the moment and am on crutches so i have one hand tied behind my back/
i am worried that they will try and bring things inn behind my back as i am a right thorn in there side as i have a diploma in employment law,
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POSTMAN
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Re: I.W.T STARTING TOMOROW, NO SIGN OFF
Every thing should be checked by the ADR anyway,if they feck around and things are wrong they then should be put right.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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keithposty
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Re: I.W.T STARTING TOMOROW, NO SIGN OFF
i agree
two disagreements so far
both upheld
one thing we do have is a strong and active branch
two disagreements so far
both upheld
one thing we do have is a strong and active branch
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jockstrapp
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Re: I.W.T STARTING TOMOROW, NO SIGN OFF
I bet that's hard using crutches with one hand behind your back.keithposty wrote:ihe ir rep is having weekly meetings but it is not what is being said is the problem
ive asked for a copy of the tmi
the codes used in the iwt on the duty planner and the time spans. the duty structure 318, is being made up into 10 minute blocks
they are still to be released
they are trying to bring in the revision within 10 weeks
ime keeping up to speed the best i can but ime rercovering from a knee operation at the moment and am on crutches so i have one hand tied behind my back/i am worried that they will try and bring things inn behind my back as i am a right thorn in there side as i have a diploma in employment law,
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keithposty
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Re: I.W.T STARTING TOMOROW, NO SIGN OFF
just an update
iwt still in planning stage but 21 backless frames on order (only found out yesterday)
(GOING INTO DISAGREEMENT (AGAIN) H&S)
i attended last planning meeting and had to put them straight the the iwt was just a resource and not a performance tool, seems they have been brainwashed, nothing new in that then
they are ignoring the issue of breaks due to the pressure they are under (shame)
they want the revision done in a total of 10 weeks (another disagreement)
i have been told on the grapevine that they are looking for duties to finish after 3 pm, (last delivery 3 pm ) that they will be by tagging on the break at the end of the duty due to there being no vans to do the afternoon sa's (oh such fun on that one :
Very Happy
you will like this one
reps facility time on an add hoc basis (oh such fun on that one)
equipment to do the job, hct, trolly, etc , takes 7 weeks from time of request minimum , they have not even done the outdoor elemant yet, let alone the iwt
apparently all the indoor measurements have been done on an average basis,
before we go any further with this revision i am going to demand how they are making up the duty planner, they are putting the whole 8 hour day, in five minute moduals,seems i am going to be just looking at every duty structre timings till christmas at this rate
i will be insisting that every walk is risk assessed,(walk tested) and not just rely on the imput from staff on WRAP
seems about it, alot of closed doors by the planning team, only get to see them once a week, then it is them just spouting how they justify the proposals
iwt still in planning stage but 21 backless frames on order (only found out yesterday)
i attended last planning meeting and had to put them straight the the iwt was just a resource and not a performance tool, seems they have been brainwashed, nothing new in that then
they are ignoring the issue of breaks due to the pressure they are under (shame)
they want the revision done in a total of 10 weeks (another disagreement)
i have been told on the grapevine that they are looking for duties to finish after 3 pm, (last delivery 3 pm ) that they will be by tagging on the break at the end of the duty due to there being no vans to do the afternoon sa's (oh such fun on that one :
you will like this one
reps facility time on an add hoc basis (oh such fun on that one)
equipment to do the job, hct, trolly, etc , takes 7 weeks from time of request minimum , they have not even done the outdoor elemant yet, let alone the iwt
apparently all the indoor measurements have been done on an average basis,
before we go any further with this revision i am going to demand how they are making up the duty planner, they are putting the whole 8 hour day, in five minute moduals,seems i am going to be just looking at every duty structre timings till christmas at this rate
i will be insisting that every walk is risk assessed,(walk tested) and not just rely on the imput from staff on WRAP
seems about it, alot of closed doors by the planning team, only get to see them once a week, then it is them just spouting how they justify the proposals
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drb
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Re: I.W.T STARTING TOMOROW, NO SIGN OFF
It seems that the "PIR"("Post Implementation Review"),the most important section of the 6 step process,has not happened or ignored. This part of the process is what is being used on collections revisions,(7 step process). Basically a Unit readiness assessment. This agreement would have to have our aspirations and theirs. This would have included all the H&S issues,the tools timetable,making sure the 1 minute prep test agreement,and anything else you can think of. This would be before Phase 1. IR framework on issues within the PIR.
Unilateral disagreement! Hand it up!
PS: Gate meetings should now be organised too!
Unilateral disagreement! Hand it up!
PS: Gate meetings should now be organised too!
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keithposty
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Re: I.W.T STARTING TOMOROW, NO SIGN OFF
MY THINKING EXACTLY
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keithposty
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Re: I.W.T STARTING TOMOROW, NO SIGN OFF
IT SEEMS THOUGH WHAT THE PLANNERS ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO IS THE IWT FIRST, THEN THE GEO ROUTE
LETS FACE IT THOUGH
DOING THE OUTDOOR REVISION FIRST HAS NOT WORKED AT OTHER OFFICES SO FAR
WONDER HOW THAT IS GOING TO EFFECT THE 6 STAGE PROCESS
LETS FACE IT THOUGH
DOING THE OUTDOOR REVISION FIRST HAS NOT WORKED AT OTHER OFFICES SO FAR
WONDER HOW THAT IS GOING TO EFFECT THE 6 STAGE PROCESS
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drb
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Re: I.W.T STARTING TOMOROW, NO SIGN OFF
Here is affirmation of the process:
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 42&t=39881" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 42&t=39881" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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keithposty
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Re: I.W.T STARTING TOMOROW, NO SIGN OFF
many thanks