WHY TURN A BLIND EYE ?

[Cheetah]

Now we all know the agreement re. working your hours, but in our office the abuse of this is ridiculous.

We have been told at team breifs that if you come in early you will still be asked to work until your finishing time, loads of toadies still come in early particularly on saturdays and are collecting their specials from the locker up to and even more in some cases 1 hour early and gone, obviously causing miss sort issues etc. The management can see this daily yet do nothing. A lot of the offenders are runners and do the duty in their cars so will be finishing in extreme cases 1&1/2 or even 2 hours early . A lot of them (though some do) don't do docket just straight off home

It's obvious they take short cuts, upset customers and generally give a unprofesional image of RM as the only thing on their mind is getting off early. You can half understand it from a management point when they cover overtime (though this is wrong we all know it is tollerated to save management getting off their back sides) but not when just going home. It is a management failing in my opinion as every day in our office there are duties on overtime which should be covered by these people . Even if they stopped running / coming in early we would be providing a better service, less miss sorts left back at the office as we would all be going out at roughly the same time.

I was just wondering if this practise goes on in other offices.

[fishtank]

Coming in early,working through breaks and cutting corners helps to cover management failure.
It's not only tolerated by management...it's actively encouraged,sometimes using the carrot of finishing early and sometimes with the bullying stick of "performance issues".
If you were a manager under budget pressure from your DSM would you want the office "doing the job properly"?
Certain "flyers" will tell you that as long as they are gaining where is the harm?....and then of course they expect the rep to stand up and argue against increased absorption.
Meanwhile those who are working properly are accused of laziness by management and sadly some of those who call themselves colleagues.
It is both a weakness in management who are far too spineless to stand up to their superiors and fight to have a business unit properly resourced and a weakness in members who,despite all of the changes for the worse that have come and are still to come,continually deny to themselves and others the damage they are doing to our job security.

They are a certain kind of people flyers..they don't tend to turn up for union meetings,they always have an excuse when someone needs help,if you're having a collection for someone they're always a bit short but will catch you later,they will drive past you when it's pissing down and claim they didn't see you.....
Selfish is being too kind to them...

[Bahia Feliz]

Only most offices Cheetah!

[WHITEANT]

All over the network ,health and safety, quility of service goes out the window ,boys driving round delivery without seat belts .U name it if it saves time the head will look the other way ,but if someone goes threw windscreen while not wearing seatbelt what happens !!! , well boys we told u seatbelts must be worn at all times .I have said to managment on several occasions about it and that they should mention about seatbelts in wtl needless to say THEY DONT strange

[bandit650]

Coming in early,working through breaks and cutting corners helps to cover management failure.
It's not only tolerated by management...it's actively encouraged,sometimes using the carrot of finishing early and sometimes with the bullying stick of "performance issues".
If you were a manager under budget pressure from your DSM would you want the office "doing the job properly"?
Certain "flyers" will tell you that as long as they are gaining where is the harm?....and then of course they expect the rep to stand up and argue against increased absorption.
Meanwhile those who are working properly are accused of laziness by management and sadly some of those who call themselves colleagues.
It is both a weakness in management who are far too spineless to stand up to their superiors and fight to have a business unit properly resourced and a weakness in members who,despite all of the changes for the worse that have come and are still to come,continually deny to themselves and others the damage they are doing to our job security.

They are a certain kind of people flyers..they don't tend to turn up for union meetings,they always have an excuse when someone needs help,if you're having a collection for someone they're always a bit short but will catch you later,they will drive past you when it's pissing down and claim they didn't see you.....
Selfish is being too kind to them...

It's the pull the ladder up Jack syndrome, the i am ok so who give's a rats about anyone else!

[WHITEANT]

Fishtank its like when u have teamtalks and the boys have a chance to say something , and say nothing .Then when we get down on shop floor they start slobbering all i say is why didnt you say that at teamtalk DEADLY SILENCE

[steven100]

Solardarity was lost when the union accepted the latest deal. I don't blame the runners, i blame the union at the top. The union at the top don't support the reps in the delivery office, some maybe newbies. And who blames it when reps are cutting deals to help themselves.
Its dog eat dog in rm now.
THE UNION AT THE TOP ARE TO BLAME FOR THE MESS WE ARE IN!!!!!! (Yes its in capitals).

[spoodoo]

WHITE ANT OUR TEAMTALKS THE SAME ,EVERYONE MOANS DOWNSTAIRS BUT SCARED TO SAY ANYTHING UPSTAIRS , AS WELL AS THE FLYERS DESPERATE TO GET BACK DOWNSTAIRS AND GET OUT DOOR WHO HATE ANY QUESTIONS UPSTAIRS THAT WILL HOLD THEM UP . WE HAD MOYAS SUITED GUYS AT OUR TEAM TALK ,GREAT WE CAN SAY WHAT WE FEEL TO THEM ,,,, OH I FORGOT OUR 3 MANAGERS ARE SITTING IN ON THE TALK ,,,,,WASTE OF FCKIN TIME !!!!!

[Stormproof]

People may disagree with me but I still think people should be finishing back at their office. Perhaps people would then do the job properly! We should, like all other big firms have a clocking in/out system then we will see how much of RM has been run on goodwill, 10mins here/there will soon add up

[DGP1]

People may disagree with me but I still think people should be finishing back at their office. Perhaps people would then do the job properly! We should, like all other big firms have a clocking in/out system then we will see how much of RM has been run on goodwill, 10mins here/there will soon add up

It's not as if they don't have the equipment in place to do it, our ID badges have RFIDs and every office have RFID scanners above the doors

[Indy]

collecting their specials from the locker up to and even more in some cases 1 hour early and gone

So what happens to the missorts???

[WHITEANT]

Its the same with working your hours , the postman who is doing the job properly is the one whos getting dragged in office .Managers giving the usual well joe blogs can finish 1 hr before you, all i say is well ok time that guy on my delivery and whatever time he finishes take it from there and il bet you he wont be 1hr early .

[somerset]

People may disagree with me but I still think people should be finishing back at their office. Perhaps people would then do the job properly! We should, like all other big firms have a clocking in/out system then we will see how much of RM has been run on goodwill, 10mins here/there will soon add up

The problem in my office is that people are finishing 2 or 3 hours early . Then go home and return to the office at end of duty !! Whilst others who live to faraway and return to the office early are made to go out and do more

[WHITEANT]

Do most of your deliverys finish 2hr early ?,if thats the case then u should be sent out with more .I F you are not doing it to the book serve yourself right

[Cheetah]

Coming in early,working through breaks and cutting corners helps to cover management failure.
It's not only tolerated by management...it's actively encouraged,sometimes using the carrot of finishing early and sometimes with the bullying stick of "performance issues".
If you were a manager under budget pressure from your DSM would you want the office "doing the job properly"?
Certain "flyers" will tell you that as long as they are gaining where is the harm?....and then of course they expect the rep to stand up and argue against increased absorption.
Meanwhile those who are working properly are accused of laziness by management and sadly some of those who call themselves colleagues.
It is both a weakness in management who are far too spineless to stand up to their superiors and fight to have a business unit properly resourced and a weakness in members who,despite all of the changes for the worse that have come and are still to come,continually deny to themselves and others the damage they are doing to our job security.

They are a certain kind of people flyers..they don't tend to turn up for union meetings,they always have an excuse when someone needs help,if you're having a collection for someone they're always a bit short but will catch you later,they will drive past you when it's pissing down and claim they didn't see you.....
Selfish is being too kind to them...

How Right you are, your description fits so many of these charecters in our office