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tboyle1989
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Post by tboyle1989 »

have been told by my manager that i cannot do the changeover, as they have enough drivers and cant afford to pay for another test, i want a van so i can go out in it on overtime to help pay the mortgage. have i got any right to have a changeover?
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Post by IloveMYredTROLLEY! »

As the saying goes, every cloud has a sliver lining... Delivery overtime will take longer delivering by bag/bike or LWT or HCT compared to driving to/from the depot with a van, which means more pay! Or is there only collection o/t available at your place?
tboyle1989
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nope there is all sorts of o/t just wouldnt mind doing the packets/collections after my normal round
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tboyle1989 wrote:have been told by my manager that i cannot do the changeover, as they have enough drivers and cant afford to pay for another test, i want a van so i can go out in it on overtime to help pay the mortgage. have i got any right to have a changeover?
ermm ..... no. You don't have the right to demand a changeover, but you could come and work at our place, we can't get enough volunteers :chuckle
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tboyle1989
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:chuckle :chuckle
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Re: changeover

Post by resperin »

speak to your collections manager as he/she can arrange the changeover for you, if your normal manager doesnt want to.
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Post by drb »

In all honesty,a change over should and fore-most be for a duty,(collections for example is a skilled duty). Jobs,(full time),are a priority,overtime is not guaranteed!
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I have not done a changeover in the 3.5 years I have been working for RM.

and on my second day in the job I was driving a large iveco van delivering to the local industrial estate and day four was delivering the whole round myself and this continued for 2 months.

I was asked to do a changeover about 7 months ago, but was told on the morning of it ( a tuesday ) and told the manager that I was not gonna be hanging around for 3 hours without getting paid to do the changeover so it got cancelled.

I still use a van everyday on my delivery walk, although now I use a bipper and its the size of a smoby car

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so I dont think it really counts as a van :whistle
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Doorstepped,if you are driving for RM and have never done a change over then your screw could be in serious trouble.
I was asked to do a changeover about 7 months ago, but was told on the morning of it ( a tuesday ) and told the manager that I was not gonna be hanging around for 3 hours without getting paid to do the changeover so it got cancelled.
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I agree with you POSTMAN, however I should have been given my changeover before I even drove a van for RM.

because I work in a very small office, we are always getting new managers, since I have been there we have had at least 6 with the longest lasting around 12 months.

I have no problem doiung a changeover at all, as long as I have got 1 days notice and not told on the morning of it.
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Post by somerset »

,(collections for example is a skilled duty). Since when ? Don't get paid any extra . Except if you doing an SA ! Not much skill needed in putting a key in a postbox !!
tboyle1989
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we have a stressful job dont we haha :arrrghhh
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somerset wrote:,(collections for example is a skilled duty). Since when ? Don't get paid any extra . Except if you doing an SA ! Not much skill needed in putting a key in a postbox !!
Agreed if you walk from collection to collection. However, the driving portion is a skill which you have to undergo assessment for (changeover).
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Post by doorstepped »

went and saw my DOM about this today and said to him " what would happen if I was to have an accident in my van and have not done a changeover " he said " I would be in the s**t but no where as deep as he would be " lol

my changeover will now be done asap :)
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But are you still driving while waiting for ASAP?
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.