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revision in january

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hans solo
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revision in january

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ka revision in january along with rest of west of scotland
as we were told at wtl this morning
no surprises there but now it gets interesting
from now on wtl sessions could all be about revision planning .
we dont need hct or light weight trolley :shock:
we dont need 2 people to a van or sharing :shock:
we dont need to do what nationally everyone else is :shock:
our only concern is later sats :shock:
my comments were
what about weight off shoulder :hmmmm
what about smaller loops reduce fatigue etc :hmmmm
security better with partner :hmmmm
the answer was WE can look at things for ourselves
now what i think is they only want to introduce longer deliv spans with bags over shoulder to save time disregarding health and safety and move start times .increase workload with prep
ie prep 4-5 duties before walking no proper meal breaks etc .
private cars still on delivery :sad:
they also want super :left: sorters at ips and mail porters to bring mail to frames enabling us to stay at frames without moving increase productivity can see where this is heading .
test test test .
where do we stand tamsky
told you we need meeting
nb we will not be entering discussions without our aspirations being met
Tamsky
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Re: revision in january

Post by Tamsky »

There will be no revision that does not follow the National Agreement.
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Re: revision in january

Post by Hitcher »

Tell them to do one.
pants123

Re: revision in january

Post by pants123 »

Tamsky wrote:There will be no revision that does not follow the National Agreement.
the national agreement is being ignored by management, they have bull dozed the revisions in, without any union involvement, that what they did at our office,, words can only describe it as hell on earth, so if you don't like the revision, only walking out may be the answer. which our office did not do, due to fear of the current world jobs situation, best of luck..
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Re: revision in january

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Best to let RM management do the revision themselves, employees should have NO part in it whatsoever, despite what RM and CWU say. Stay clear of it and let them f**k it up, it really is the best way.
CUT OFF!!!
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Re: revision in january

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Tamsky wrote:There will be no revision that does not follow the National Agreement.
cheers my man thats what i wanted to hear :Very Happy
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Re: revision in january

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as far as i am aware they cannot increase your delivery span until they take weight off your shoulder,end of
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Re: revision in january

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bootleg wrote:as far as i am aware they cannot increase your delivery span until they take weight off your shoulder,end of
Not.....if Royal Mail managers follow the National Agreement.
Hence....Tamsky's post. :whistle
Tamsky wrote:There will be no revision that does not follow the National Agreement.
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Re: revision in january

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Tamsky wrote:There will be no revision that does not follow the National Agreement.
That might mean......there will be no revision.
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Re: revision in january

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clashcityrocker wrote:
Tamsky wrote:There will be no revision that does not follow the National Agreement.
That might mean......there will be no revision.
No....that might mean......there will be no agreed revision.
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Re: revision in january

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fishtank wrote: No....that might mean......there will be no agreed revision.
Given the difficulties involved in bringing in agreed revisions, what are the possibilities of them bringing in unagreed revisions.
Unless you are suggesting that the workers might bring in revisions that haven't been agreed with the RFD? :nana
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Re: revision in january

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clashcityrocker wrote: Given the difficulties involved in bringing in agreed revisions, what are the possibilities of them bringing in unagreed revisions.
I think they would bite your hand off if you offered them the chance to implement a revision purely on their terms.
We are gaining most where members are using the full terms of BT2010 to their advantage and doing the job properly...but they are proving very costly for RM...........where members are allowing management free reign the revisions are giving us nothing but the impression that they are working and ridiculous bsi figures like 140%.

There is no doubt that RM will not wait forever for agreed revisions.
Whether they offer more concessions or go for the nuclear option is debatable at the moment.
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Re: revision in january

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Apparently they're trialling a new way of doing revisions at the Dell(In Edinburgh I believe). My DOM seemed quite excited,and hopeful it would be rolled out to us soon.

He never answered when I asked how many times they'd moved the goalposts now.

Does anyone know anything about this trial.
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Re: revision in january

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macphee1 wrote:Apparently they're trialling a new way of doing revisions at the Dell(In Edinburgh I believe). My DOM seemed quite excited,and hopeful it would be rolled out to us soon.

He never answered when I asked how many times they'd moved the goalposts now.

Does anyone know anything about this trial.
your doms only excited cause someone may have found a solution for him :left:
but i would,nt hold out too much hope on that
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Re: revision in january

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macphee1 wrote:Apparently they're trialling a new way of doing revisions at the Dell(In Edinburgh I believe)
Is it "big van Park and Loop"?
Does it involve the continued use of drop boxes?
Tell them now - it still won't work.
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