Longest loop.

[bag69]

Just wondering what the longest loop is that you have come acrosss? Can we all please use RF figures & not how long it actually takes. So far i have found loops of 50, 55 and even 58 mins. Can you beat this?

[dvbuk55]

Originally I believe the longest loop was supposed to be 20 mins, with the advent of LCTs it was upgraded to 40 minutes. I don't know if it is an agreed standard but that's what happened at our DO. Who knows how they arrived at the figure presumably it was with georoute.

[PhilthyPhil]

The longest loop I have ever seen was 180 houses. It was supposed to all fit on a lightweight trolley. On a heavy day it wouldn't even fit in an HCT

[daveyeff]

Just wondering what the longest loop is that you have come acrosss? Can we all please use RF figures & not how long it actually takes. So far i have found loops of 50, 55 and even 58 mins. Can you beat this?

theres not supposed to be any over 40mins in our office but my 2 BIG loops are 2hrs 10mins for both bags on the trolley, so about 1hr 5mins each, roughly.

[parcelboy]

Great big loops who planned them .Obviously some idiot hardly taking wait off shoulder .Can not wait for the post on ,did a loop to-day only to find my van stolen with me butties and flask in.Doh! what about all the mail parcels s/d items recorded items. MAIL INTEGRITY MY A***.Maybe those pouch boxes were a bit awkward to get 2 pouches in.But surely 2 pouches being stolen is better than say 10 pouches +all the other items listed above not to mention the van.RM you have really lost the plot ,You only got the idea from the idiots who use there own cars.One day RM management will listen to the once loyal posties..................no that will never happen.Sad to say but the nails are in the coffin they just need banging in RIP RM .

[Poatmanjones]

The loops that came off pegasus were a joke so we done our own

ive only 3 loops one takes 1hr 15, and the other 2 take 40 mins and 45 mins

however the beats comes back as over 4hrs so happy days!!

[woofwoof]

nothing over 50 mins

[Pat Ostman]

Some loops in our DO EASILY over 40M

A few loopy Managers/Supervisors as well.

[POSTMAN]

Thought the agreement says something about 40 mins max?

[woofwoof]

Thought the agreement says something about 40 mins max?

what page im tired

[dvbuk55]

Thought the agreement says something about 40 mins max?

I thought so too but georoute might say 40 minutes and the actuality is slightly different

[post_bitch]

[post_bitch]

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Route list with route details for selected route.
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