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The "2010" rip-off continues.

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Wiggins79
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The "2010" rip-off continues.

Post by Wiggins79 »

This is the current farcical situation in our area:
I work in subs and our parent office has recieved it's full 2010 agrrement lump sums. They received it this time last year. As per the agreement we all waited in subs to recieve our lum sums as they were supposed to be paid along with the parent office. Finally, in August our union rep deemed to visit us (on an entirely seperate matter) and said we should be getting the lump sum before the end of the year "just in time for Xmas, won't that be nice," were his exact words. Xmas 2010 came and went with no sign of the lump sum.
After over six months of no communication or response to queries we were sent a letter saying that no lump sums would be paid to subs until all 20+ sub offices had had a revision and been signed off. At this point most of us gave up the hope of ever seeing any lump sum payment before privatisation kicked in at which point it would no doubt be consigned to the scrap heap.
Incidentally, our office had already collapsed a duty with no more room for manuever so it didn't look like we were going to even have a "revision" in our 7 duty office.
Despite no lump sum payments being made we were informed two months ago that all full-timers would be changing to 39hr contracts as per the 2010 revision agreement. The rest of us on "part-time" contracts anticipated the wage-rise in next weeks payslip. Needless to say, we were all disappointed- part-timers who got no pay-rise and full-timers who got a pay-cut for simply having to come in 15 minutes later in the morning.
The latest to have been explained to us is that the offices have all been signed off by the union and now await the confirmation from management before payment of the lump sums begins. I won't be holding my breath for that. But here comes the kicker: the area dom has realised that he kicked in the 40 to 39 hr cut too early and doesn't want to pay the back-dated payrise owed to all the part-timers so he is simply going to put all 39hr contracts back up to 40 before the final revision and lump sum payments is resolved. All whilst the union look on with seemingly no problem with it. In a nutshell, we've all been ripped off. Part-timers having to do the extra work in the morning primary sorting whilst those lazy full-timers spend an extra 15 minutes in bed (don't hate me FT'ers I'm kidding) without the payrise. And full timers who could have been paid 40hrs instead of 39 for the last 2 months.
I would like to take this opportunity to thanks all the union top-bods for this wonderful deal and their measures taken to ensure that RM don't use it to simply shaft the workforce. :evil/mad
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Post by dvbuk55 »

Oh yes. The deal of the century. :wink:
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If I have read the post right.... You are claiming FT staff had a pay cut for going to 39 hours. :crazy: :crazy:
Anything is believable with this company & 2010 & Beyond... But that ?
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gb93 wrote:If I have read the post right.... You are claiming FT staff had a pay cut for going to 39 hours. :crazy: :crazy:
Anything is believable with this company & 2010 & Beyond... But that ?
What i can't believe is that they carried on working after opening their payslips...or that the manager made it out of the building alive....or that the rep hasn't been dragged in from wherever he hides and pinned against the wall.
It's one of the craziest things i've read on this forum. :shock: :crazy:
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We are also waiting for our lump sums, our parent DO having been paid theirs some 4-5 weeks ago. I have been unable to find anything in the agreement that states a sub office has to have a revision. The agreement states that sub offices will be paid their lump sum in line with the parent DO. Can someone please confirm that I have read this correctly and that there is no small print somewhere that states otherwise.
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fishtank wrote:
gb93 wrote:If I have read the post right.... You are claiming FT staff had a pay cut for going to 39 hours. :crazy: :crazy:
Anything is believable with this company & 2010 & Beyond... But that ?
What i can't believe is that they carried on working after opening their payslips...or that the manager made it out of the building alive....or that the rep hasn't been dragged in from wherever he hides and pinned against the wall.
It's one of the craziest things i've read on this forum. :shock: :crazy:
But you see it's a very unmilitant area, and despite how irate I find myself, everyone else just shrugs their shoulders and carries on expecting to get shafted. If only the rest of the country was like this and management and the govt would have the whole thing sown up by the end of the year. :sad:
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Post by POSTMAN »

in August our union rep deemed to visit us Area rep? If not contact him,if he is,contact HQ.
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Post by wayoutman »

one of fishtanks posts from another thread............

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....Branches and Representatives should be aware that Royal Mail accept that the longest delay should be no more than 3 weeks from deployment which is due to administration reasons. Following a discussion at the recent NDG Royal Mail were informed that we would issue guidance on this point in the following terms. Local revision agreements should be signed off and include a statement confirming the type of revision, the amount of money to be paid, and the date the payment will be made. The concurrence form for the payments to be made should then be signed by the Manager and CWU Representative and a copy retained of this and the final signed agreement. If the payments have not been made within 3 weeks this should be flagged up to the Divisional Representatives without delay so that they can make representation at Regional level. Any problems thereafter should be raised with the Outdoor Dept. Royal Mail did not object to this.

Any enquiries to Bob Gibson’s Office , quoting reference 230.03
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Cheers for the cut and paste wayoutman. I was sure I'd read that somewhere. I'm going to ring the local rep up tomorrow armed with a printout of that and see what he has to say about it.
Anyone else working in a sub-office actually had a lump sum payment yet?
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Post by ziko »

You forgot to add your 'withheld' colleague shares in that rip off 2010 equation........
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ziko wrote:You forgot to add your 'withheld' colleague shares in that rip off 2010 equation........
Doh! :roll:
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Post by pokos27 »

i went to local gypsy and asked her about the agreement and us getting bonus and 39 hour week, she looked at the crystal ball and started laughing.