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turb2o
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out of contract

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I've been employed since 28 march my contact was 3 months so I have been out of contract for over 6 weeks I have seen my dom about this and all he said was I am employed on a day to day basis I am not the only one at my office I've asked the union the rep he was stumped can they do this as I am basically waiting to be laid off
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Oh ffs,are they c***s or what,day to fecking day.They are getting worse.
Your rep ( :roll: ) needs to contact his area rep asap.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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I'm going to assume your looking for a new job.
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turb2o wrote:I've been employed since 28 march my contact was 3 months so I have been out of contract for over 6 weeks I have seen my dom about this and all he said was I am employed on a day to day basis I am not the only one at my office I've asked the union the rep he was stumped can they do this as I am basically waiting to be laid off
:shock: No no--get this fixed out, if your original contract was for three months, you should have either ben laid of then, or had another contract with your new terms and conditions listed----they are taking the mick big time.
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When did you last get paid - six weeks ago or last Friday ?
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only 7 and a half months to go then till full employment rights.
when you would of kept your job.

now you have highlighted it to your dom................
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flaminmoses wrote:only 7 and a half months to go then till full employment rights.
when you would of kept your job.

now you have highlighted it to your dom................
It's 4 years!
The law states 4 years,we have a 2 year agreement..................which RM are ignoring.

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I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
pokos27
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Post by pokos27 »

seek union advice, you need to have a new contract.
turb2o
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still in the same boat last piece of advice was if I am still getting paid I am still in a job . union rep does not have clue ie does not care I have not got in contact with area rep yet so that's my next step I am on my own with this as the other boy's that are in the same position as me don't wont to rock the boat
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You still have a contract...the contract you started on,it just doesn't have a termination date anymore because that has been allowed to lapse.
Royal Mail are now legally obliged to give you reasonable termination notice.
What's reasonable is pretty vague but anything under 1 month i would personally consider unreasonable.
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:sad: If they have 'renewed' your contract, they nust send you written details of terms and conditions--again, write to your DOM and remind him of his LEGAL obligations!
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fishtank wrote:You still have a contract...the contract you started on,it just doesn't have a termination date anymore because that has been allowed to lapse.
Royal Mail are now legally obliged to give you reasonable termination notice.
What's reasonable is pretty vague but anything under 1 month i would personally consider unreasonable.

so basically if you are put on a temp contract (say six months) and you end up working over a year you then are protected by full employemnt rights?????
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fishtank wrote:You still have a contract...the contract you started on,it just doesn't have a termination date anymore because that has been allowed to lapse.
Royal Mail are now legally obliged to give you reasonable termination notice.
What's reasonable is pretty vague but anything under 1 month i would personally consider unreasonable.
For less than two years service the minimum notice period for notice of termination is 2 weeks.
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flaminmoses wrote:
fishtank wrote:You still have a contract...the contract you started on,it just doesn't have a termination date anymore because that has been allowed to lapse.
Royal Mail are now legally obliged to give you reasonable termination notice.
What's reasonable is pretty vague but anything under 1 month i would personally consider unreasonable.

so basically if you are put on a temp contract (say six months) and you end up working over a year you then are protected by full employemnt rights?????
If you mean Statutory protection against Unfair Dismissal...yes...but you are protected against certain types of unfair treatment for day 1 with a combination of our Collective Bargaining Agreements and The Fixed-term Employees (Prevention of Less Favourable Treatment) Regulations 2002 which means that employees on fixed-term contracts are treated no less favourably than comparable permanent employees.
If you are talking about redundancy terms it's two years before you have the same rights as a permanent employee.
If you are talking about being automatically made permanent it's 4 years.
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PhilthyPhil wrote: For less than two years service the minimum notice period for notice of termination is 2 weeks.
I know Phil but why aim low....it's their screw up.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share