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If I started as a xmas casual and went straight to a FT contract with no gaps, (ie continuous employment) when does my seniority start? I'm getting conflicting answers and need someone to clarify.
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13.6 All service within an appropriate grade, whether on permanent or temporary basis, will count for seniority purposes, with the exception of any periods worked on a casual contract, or during a career break or sabbatical. Unpaid leave will count provided there is no break in contact. Service after age 60 will continue to count. However service must be continuous for seniority purposes, with periods prior to any break in contract (due to re-employment, for example) not generally included, unless there are exceptional circumstances applying to particular cases that are agreed at local level.
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beinspired wrote:If I started as a xmas casual and went straight to a FT contract with no gaps, (ie continuous employment) when does my seniority start? I'm getting conflicting answers and need someone to clarify.
I think from the day you start! It goes by you pay number too if im correct. I know mine is ten numbers later than my mates and he got the run due to seniority, he started the same week as me!
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POSTMAN wrote:
13.6 All service within an appropriate grade, whether on permanent or temporary basis, will count for seniority purposes, with the exception of any periods worked on a casual contract, or during a career break or sabbatical. Unpaid leave will count provided there is no break in contact. Service after age 60 will continue to count. However service must be continuous for seniority purposes, with periods prior to any break in contract (due to re-employment, for example) not generally included, unless there are exceptional circumstances applying to particular cases that are agreed at local level.
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I read this, so does that mean my seniority began when I joined as a casual?
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........with the exception of any periods worked on a casual contract.

So no.
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clashcityrocker wrote:........with the exception of any periods worked on a casual contract.

So no.
Is this correct?
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beinspired wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:........with the exception of any periods worked on a casual contract.

So no.
Is this correct?
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
beinspired wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:........with the exception of any periods worked on a casual contract.

So no.
Is this correct?
Yes - he has highlighted a portion of a quote from the post you quoted.
A Xmas casual is not the same as a regular casual who comes in when needed whereas Xmas staff are on temporary contracts which can be made full time?
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beinspired wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:........with the exception of any periods worked on a casual contract.

So no.
Is this correct?
No if it's not the answer you want it to be :crazy:
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gb93 wrote:
beinspired wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:........with the exception of any periods worked on a casual contract.

So no.
Is this correct?
No if it's not the answer you want it to be :crazy:

I'm just looking for the correct answer as I've had conflicting ones - was told by HR that it begins from when I joined the company.
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beinspired wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:........with the exception of any periods worked on a casual contract.

So no.
Is this correct?
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beinspired wrote:
gb93 wrote:
beinspired wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:........with the exception of any periods worked on a casual contract.

So no.
Is this correct?
No if it's not the answer you want it to be :crazy:

I'm just looking for the correct answer as I've had conflicting ones - was told by HR that it begins from when I joined the company.
Well I think this has been confirmed by the answers given.
Meaning your seniority starts from when you joined the company on a substantive contract.
And not when you were working as a casual
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jonsboys wrote:
beinspired wrote:If I started as a xmas casual and went straight to a FT contract with no gaps, (ie continuous employment) when does my seniority start? I'm getting conflicting answers and need someone to clarify.
I think from the day you start! It goes by you pay number too if im correct. I know mine is ten numbers later than my mates and he got the run due to seniority, he started the same week as me!

By pay number? Hmmmm :hmmmm I havent heard this one before!! Am I out of touch or is this correct? Trueblueterrier?
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It's length of continuous RM employment and the tie-breakers are any other periods of Royal Mail service on other grades, secondly, date of selection and, thirdly, date of birth.
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scoobydo79 wrote:
jonsboys wrote:
beinspired wrote:If I started as a xmas casual and went straight to a FT contract with no gaps, (ie continuous employment) when does my seniority start? I'm getting conflicting answers and need someone to clarify.
I think from the day you start! It goes by you pay number too if im correct. I know mine is ten numbers later than my mates and he got the run due to seniority, he started the same week as me!

By pay number? Hmmmm :hmmmm I havent heard this one before!! Am I out of touch or is this correct? Trueblueterrier?
Never heard of it myself - I have heard of Date of Birth being used as a Tie Breaker but not Pay Number.
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