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Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail
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DGP1
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Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail
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This should make some interesting reading for everyone.
This should make some interesting reading for everyone.
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wranglered
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Re: Employment Tribunal cases involving Royal Mail
Totally indicative of why RM is such a diabolical employer at this present time...
What should also be remembered are these cases are APPEALS against tribunal decisions.
Although it is some time since I read them all, if I recall rightly, most are where RM have lost and where they challenge the original decision with yet more legal and financial muscle....
It shows the lengths they will go to to grind us into the dust...and being represented by the union seems to make little difference....
If you take them on, you are in for a serious and prolonged fight....but in my opinion the only way we are to stop RM treating us like s**t is to enforce our employment rights via the courts....
Make no mistake, the union has been beaten, national agreements and the IR framework are going to be history and we will have to accept less influence than before, even if you were lucky enough to be in strong office that has stood up to them in the past....
If I was in a position of influence, which of course I am not due to electoral interference, then I would be pushing like mad to get every unit rep trained to f***k in how to fight ET's with or without union hq backing....
We would then say very loudly to RM - sort your act out or you will forever be having to explain your bullying and harassment, discrimination of all types and unfair dismissals in the full glare of local and national publicity...
Mark my words, if we did that on a massive scale they would soon be treating us with real dignity and respect, not the spin version we hear every day to cover up their atrocities....
ROYAL MAIL ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW OF EMPLOYMENT.
What should also be remembered are these cases are APPEALS against tribunal decisions.
Although it is some time since I read them all, if I recall rightly, most are where RM have lost and where they challenge the original decision with yet more legal and financial muscle....
It shows the lengths they will go to to grind us into the dust...and being represented by the union seems to make little difference....
If you take them on, you are in for a serious and prolonged fight....but in my opinion the only way we are to stop RM treating us like s**t is to enforce our employment rights via the courts....
Make no mistake, the union has been beaten, national agreements and the IR framework are going to be history and we will have to accept less influence than before, even if you were lucky enough to be in strong office that has stood up to them in the past....
If I was in a position of influence, which of course I am not due to electoral interference, then I would be pushing like mad to get every unit rep trained to f***k in how to fight ET's with or without union hq backing....
We would then say very loudly to RM - sort your act out or you will forever be having to explain your bullying and harassment, discrimination of all types and unfair dismissals in the full glare of local and national publicity...
Mark my words, if we did that on a massive scale they would soon be treating us with real dignity and respect, not the spin version we hear every day to cover up their atrocities....
ROYAL MAIL ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW OF EMPLOYMENT.
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stokes11eg
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Re: Employment Tribunal cases involving Royal Mail
wranglered wrote:Totally indicative of why RM is such a diabolical employer at this present time...
What should also be remembered are these cases are APPEALS against tribunal decisions.
Although it is some time since I read them all, if I recall rightly, most are where RM have lost and where they challenge the original decision with yet more legal and financial muscle....
It shows the lengths they will go to to grind us into the dust...and being represented by the union seems to make little difference....
If you take them on, you are in for a serious and prolonged fight....but in my opinion the only way we are to stop RM treating us like s**t is to enforce our employment rights via the courts....
Make no mistake, the union has been beaten, national agreements and the IR framework are going to be history and we will have to accept less influence than before, even if you were lucky enough to be in strong office that has stood up to them in the past....
If I was in a position of influence, which of course I am not due to electoral interference, then I would be pushing like mad to get every unit rep trained to f***k in how to fight ET's with or without union hq backing....
We would then say very loudly to RM - sort your act out or you will forever be having to explain your bullying and harassment, discrimination of all types and unfair dismissals in the full glare of local and national publicity...
Mark my words, if we did that on a massive scale they would soon be treating us with real dignity and respect, not the spin version we hear every day to cover up their atrocities....
ROYAL MAIL ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW OF EMPLOYMENT.
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DGP1
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail
Yes, sorry they are appeals cases
, I've changed the title accordingly.
Is there no online list of Tribunals from England, Scotland and Wales because there is for Northern Ireland.
http://forms.employmenttribunalsni.co.u ... earch.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Is there no online list of Tribunals from England, Scotland and Wales because there is for Northern Ireland.
http://forms.employmenttribunalsni.co.u ... earch.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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dvbuk55
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail
No worries - it is quite prevalent at your age - it is called alt, alka erm senil er demon - I saw a programme about it once but I've forgotten what it was about.disgruntledpostie1 wrote:Yes, sorry they are appeals cases, I've changed the title accordingly.
Is there no online list of Tribunals from England, Scotland and Wales because there is for Northern Ireland.
http://forms.employmenttribunalsni.co.u ... earch.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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DGP1
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail
Who are you again?dvbuk55 wrote:No worries - it is quite prevalent at your age - it is called alt, alka erm senil er demon - I saw a programme about it once but I've forgotten what it was about.disgruntledpostie1 wrote:Yes, sorry they are appeals cases, I've changed the title accordingly.
Is there no online list of Tribunals from England, Scotland and Wales because there is for Northern Ireland.
http://forms.employmenttribunalsni.co.u ... earch.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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brothermagrew
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail
Ignore him anyway brother,
he's a pure baskeball case

"Today’s workplace has become heartless and soulless. Employees are seen as units of labour, automatons, functionaries, objects for achieving designated tasks, and as costs to be minimised."
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mr man
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail
could you please let me know who these voluntary groups are as i have been left high n dry by the union.....?
cheers..
cheers..
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R@YAL F@IL
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail
Your Union that has left you "high and dry" so you say will give you I am sure an appeal procedure which will contain all the info you need to know.mr man wrote:could you please let me know who these voluntary groups are as i have been left high n dry by the union.....?
cheers..
NO bags on shoulders please except for Moya who keeps her big fat wage packet in hers
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General Mannerheim
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail
Thats probably a blessing in disguise as they are feckin hopeless.mr man wrote:could you please let me know who these voluntary groups are as i have been left high n dry by the union.....?
cheers..
Royal Mail managers.....about as popular as a t.urd in a swimming pool!
The DDA/Equality Act demands action,NOT words......adjustments NOT Occupational Health referrals.Case No:2505901/09
Royal Mail is an Equal Opportunities Employer..It discriminates against everybody.
The DDA/Equality Act demands action,NOT words......adjustments NOT Occupational Health referrals.Case No:2505901/09
Royal Mail is an Equal Opportunities Employer..It discriminates against everybody.
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mr man
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail
what appeal are u talking about my friend???
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mr man
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail
u got any suggestions general...?
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Fluke
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail
The rep in our place took out 25 E.T's against RM in one sitting.
5 of them were combined i.e involving more than 1 claim. All relating to money owed and annual leave.
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krussel
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail
I remember reading a thread on here a while back which had examples of sackings following bad genuine illness.
Shocking stuff
Shocking stuff
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
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Lounge Lizard
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail
And was the rep successful with all 25 ?Fluke wrote:The rep in our place took out 25 E.T's against RM in one sitting.5 of them were combined i.e involving more than 1 claim. All relating to money owed and annual leave.