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Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail

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DGP1
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Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail

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http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/sino_sear ... es%2FUKEAT" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This should make some interesting reading for everyone.
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wranglered
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Re: Employment Tribunal cases involving Royal Mail

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Totally indicative of why RM is such a diabolical employer at this present time...

What should also be remembered are these cases are APPEALS against tribunal decisions.

Although it is some time since I read them all, if I recall rightly, most are where RM have lost and where they challenge the original decision with yet more legal and financial muscle....

It shows the lengths they will go to to grind us into the dust...and being represented by the union seems to make little difference....

If you take them on, you are in for a serious and prolonged fight....but in my opinion the only way we are to stop RM treating us like s**t is to enforce our employment rights via the courts....

Make no mistake, the union has been beaten, national agreements and the IR framework are going to be history and we will have to accept less influence than before, even if you were lucky enough to be in strong office that has stood up to them in the past....

If I was in a position of influence, which of course I am not due to electoral interference, then I would be pushing like mad to get every unit rep trained to f***k in how to fight ET's with or without union hq backing....

We would then say very loudly to RM - sort your act out or you will forever be having to explain your bullying and harassment, discrimination of all types and unfair dismissals in the full glare of local and national publicity...

Mark my words, if we did that on a massive scale they would soon be treating us with real dignity and respect, not the spin version we hear every day to cover up their atrocities....

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Re: Employment Tribunal cases involving Royal Mail

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wranglered wrote:Totally indicative of why RM is such a diabolical employer at this present time...

What should also be remembered are these cases are APPEALS against tribunal decisions.

Although it is some time since I read them all, if I recall rightly, most are where RM have lost and where they challenge the original decision with yet more legal and financial muscle....

It shows the lengths they will go to to grind us into the dust...and being represented by the union seems to make little difference....

If you take them on, you are in for a serious and prolonged fight....but in my opinion the only way we are to stop RM treating us like s**t is to enforce our employment rights via the courts....

Make no mistake, the union has been beaten, national agreements and the IR framework are going to be history and we will have to accept less influence than before, even if you were lucky enough to be in strong office that has stood up to them in the past....

If I was in a position of influence, which of course I am not due to electoral interference, then I would be pushing like mad to get every unit rep trained to f***k in how to fight ET's with or without union hq backing....

We would then say very loudly to RM - sort your act out or you will forever be having to explain your bullying and harassment, discrimination of all types and unfair dismissals in the full glare of local and national publicity...

Mark my words, if we did that on a massive scale they would soon be treating us with real dignity and respect, not the spin version we hear every day to cover up their atrocities....

ROYAL MAIL ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW OF EMPLOYMENT.
:nana Hear, HearJust a reminder that there are good voluntary groups which will fight your cases for you.
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail

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Yes, sorry they are appeals cases :d'oh! , I've changed the title accordingly.

Is there no online list of Tribunals from England, Scotland and Wales because there is for Northern Ireland.
http://forms.employmenttribunalsni.co.u ... earch.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail

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disgruntledpostie1 wrote:Yes, sorry they are appeals cases :d'oh! , I've changed the title accordingly.

Is there no online list of Tribunals from England, Scotland and Wales because there is for Northern Ireland.
http://forms.employmenttribunalsni.co.u ... earch.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
No worries - it is quite prevalent at your age - it is called alt, alka erm senil er demon - I saw a programme about it once but I've forgotten what it was about.
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail

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dvbuk55 wrote:
disgruntledpostie1 wrote:Yes, sorry they are appeals cases :d'oh! , I've changed the title accordingly.

Is there no online list of Tribunals from England, Scotland and Wales because there is for Northern Ireland.
http://forms.employmenttribunalsni.co.u ... earch.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
No worries - it is quite prevalent at your age - it is called alt, alka erm senil er demon - I saw a programme about it once but I've forgotten what it was about.
Who are you again? :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail

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Ignore him anyway brother, :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: he's a pure baskeball case :crazy: :crazy:
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail

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could you please let me know who these voluntary groups are as i have been left high n dry by the union.....?
cheers..
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail

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mr man wrote:could you please let me know who these voluntary groups are as i have been left high n dry by the union.....?
cheers..
Your Union that has left you "high and dry" so you say will give you I am sure an appeal procedure which will contain all the info you need to know.
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail

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mr man wrote:could you please let me know who these voluntary groups are as i have been left high n dry by the union.....?
cheers..
Thats probably a blessing in disguise as they are feckin hopeless.
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mr man
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail

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what appeal are u talking about my friend???
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail

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u got any suggestions general...?
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail

Post by Fluke »

The rep in our place took out 25 E.T's against RM in one sitting. :dance 5 of them were combined i.e involving more than 1 claim. All relating to money owed and annual leave.
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail

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I remember reading a thread on here a while back which had examples of sackings following bad genuine illness.

Shocking stuff :no no
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Re: Employment Tribunal Appeals cases involving Royal Mail

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Fluke wrote:The rep in our place took out 25 E.T's against RM in one sitting. :dance 5 of them were combined i.e involving more than 1 claim. All relating to money owed and annual leave.
And was the rep successful with all 25 ?