No to overtime - newbie

[manna121]

Hi everyone.

I have been on the job for a couple of months part time 9-2, and have a dilema for overtime. i dont want to do it as i have other commintments. During my interview which was at another depot i do not remember at all being told that overtime was compulsory, after all which organisation can force you to do overtime? But according to them i verbally agreed it?????

Days that i do not do overtime i am made to feel guilty that they have done me a favour, are you kidding me. Everyday i am going over by 10-15 minutes which i do not bother to claim. when i do go over 45 minutes i tell the gaffer but the following week i dont seem to have it paid and so i have to hand them a print out everyweek until they pay me as usually they lose it.

Also what is the deal with breaks as during a 5 hour shift you are supposed to get 30 minutes break. Technically i am supposed to finish at 1.30? in my dreams. So if i finish at 2.30 do i put in 1 hour overtime? No body seems to know the answer or when you do ask every body looks at each other as if i have done some sort of cardinal sin.

Bottom line is that i wish to finish on time everyday otherwise it defeats the purpose of being a part time job and i will have to look for another part time job, or just simply refuse and wait to be sacked as the reason for sacking would be i refused to do overtime. I rang hr and they told me that it balances out over time when it is not so busy, i'm sorry when is it not busy you do not walk a shorter distance it still takes you approximately the same time.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[POSTMAN]

Welcome to the site mate,and a belated welcome to hell.
Will move this into blue shirts.

[Himaggen]

I have been on the job for a couple of months part time 9-2

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Also what is the deal with breaks as during a 5 hour shift you are supposed to get 30 minutes break. Technically i am supposed to finish at 1.30? in my dreams. So if i finish at 2.30 do i put in 1 hour overtime?

Your finish time is 2:00, your meal relief is an entitlement you have to take during your shift. It is not allowed to be seen or used as a tool for finishing earlier, it is actually against the law to tag it onto the end of the shift.

During my interview which was at another depot i do not remember at all being told that overtime was compulsory, after all which organisation can force you to do overtime? But according to them i verbally agreed it?????

Ask them if they can provide you with the evidence that you have made a verbal agreement and on the specifics of that agreement. If they fail to provide you with that information within a reasonable time, then it is unlikely that they would be in a position to make a case against you using it.

[POSTMAN]

I rang hr and they told me that it balances out over time when it is not so busy, i'm sorry when is it not busy you do not walk a shorter distance it still takes you approximately the same time.

That is also wrong,we have long and shorts,that is where we have different start times on different days,i doubt you are doing that though.

We also have a flexability agreement which is voluntary (within reason) where you can work over by 30mins MAX one day and you get the 30 mins back on an agreed day during the SAME week so your actual worked hrs DURING THE WEEK do not change,i don't think you're doing that either.

There is NO agreement in the business where hrs balance out when it's not busy.

The crux of it tbh is your manager/s is taking the piss.And HR don't know how the job works.
Join the union and get help from the rep & work place coach.

[post_bitch]

[George door to dawes]

they told me that it balances out over time when it is not so busy

Well this is the quiet part of the year so if anything it will get worse!

[manna121]

During my interview which was at another depot i do not remember at all being told that overtime was compulsory, after all which organisation can force you to do overtime? But according to them i verbally agreed it?????

Ask them if they can provide you with the evidence that you have made a verbal agreement and on the specifics of that agreement. If they fail to provide you with that information within a reasonable time, then it is unlikely that they would be in a position to make a case against you using it.[/quote]

Hi thank you for getting back to me everyone. I just realised the job i was interviewed for was with less hours and was a 9-1 shift (which i did not get) and there is a possibility that i said that i could do the odd hour overtime. But i was then called and offered a 9-2 job where really i cannot be flexible to offer overtime. Does that make a difference?

[POSTMAN]

During my interview which was at another depot i do not remember at all being told that overtime was compulsory, after all which organisation can force you to do overtime? But according to them i verbally agreed it?????

Ask them if they can provide you with the evidence that you have made a verbal agreement and on the specifics of that agreement. If they fail to provide you with that information within a reasonable time, then it is unlikely that they would be in a position to make a case against you using it.

Hi thank you for getting back to me everyone. I just realised the job i was interviewed for was with less hours and was a 9-1 shift (which i did not get) and there is a possibility that i said that i could do the odd hour overtime. But i was then called and offered a 9-2 job where really i cannot be flexible to offer overtime. Does that make a difference?

Mate,your manager is bullshitting,they will not have a clue what is said at an interview,especially you saying things like yeah,i don't mind the odd bit of over time.
Like i said HR do not have a clue about the job,don't worry about it.

What job you actually go for and what you actually get are 2 completely different things.

[calpsy]

I am a 9-2 postie myself . Since I started my 2 managers have allowed ALL of us to take the half hour break at the end and therefore our finishing time IS 1.30 so anything over tha is claimed as overtime .

Now depending on your manager he might want you to take it anytime between 9-2 and if so then obv u get 30 mins early and finish at 2 . Either scenario your gonna do the same amount of overtime . Only difference is your out 30 minutes later .