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randompostman
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BSI

Post by randompostman »

What does BSI mean when we say 100 BSI ect in connection with royal mail?
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Re: BSI

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It means that 100% of your working day is accounted for.

Every min. is spent working.

No tea/coffee/cig. breaks

Your ass is grass, and your DOM's the lawnmower. :Very Happy
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Cut Off King wrote:It means that 100% of your working day is accounted for.

Every min. is spent working.

No tea/coffee/cig. breaks

Your ass is grass, and your DOM's the lawnmower. :Very Happy
More accurately your IPS will be 29 letters per minute and your prep will be 25 letters per minute and you have to work at that speed for 100% of your time, it's happening in my office not not apparently in London because they don't recognise it.
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DGP1 wrote:
Cut Off King wrote:It means that 100% of your working day is accounted for.

Every min. is spent working.

No tea/coffee/cig. breaks

Your ass is grass, and your DOM's the lawnmower. :Very Happy
More accurately your IPS will be 29 letters per minute and your prep will be 25 letters per minute and you have to work at that speed for 100% of your time, it's happening in my office not not apparently in London because they don't recognise it.
God help me, I struggle to do 2.9 letters per min, never mind 29 :crazy:
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Re: BSI

Post by randompostman »

Sorry for not being clear but what does BSI mean? We all know it is a way to beat us by RM and we are all frightened by it but no-one seems to know what the initials mean.
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Re: BSI

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BSI

Brittish
Standards
Instatute

OR

Bull
s**t
Index

Take your pick :Very Happy
randompostman
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Re: BSI

Post by randompostman »

Brittish
Standards
Instatute

If true when did any of them deliver a letter, packet or parcel? Why are we so frightened and have lost tens of thousands of jobs because of BSI?
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bull s**t instructions :vcfo
randompostman
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noggin1969 wrote:bull s**t instructions :vcfo
PMSL. :Applause
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Re: BSI

Post by Danelectro »

randompostman wrote:Why are we so frightened and have lost tens of thousands of jobs because of BSI?
Running IWT at BSI 100 has ripped hours out of offices, the total must be phenomenal and as you say is a major factor
in subsequent job losses.

Bob Gibson :speak to the hand says its not agreed,well it should have been! ACAS apparently recommended BSI 75
so we can only blame our negotiators as to why they couldnt get agreement on the ACAS figure.

To leave this to Local agreement with so many hours and jobs at risk is unforgivable.
and as the Bible of vague agreements says- the meak/weak and the plain daft shall inherit a shite office.
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Post by Brainache »

Is this a local agreement thing then ? Because my little office havent agreed to any bsi as its not been mentioned (yet).
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Re: BSI

Post by randompostman »

British Standards institute would seem to be what it means although so far we are still not sure? Admins on RMC don’t know (not a criticism) my branch don’t know! Why are we being beaten with an un agreed tool? Why no CWU agreement that costs us thousands of jobs? ARE WE THAT STUPID to take this? WHAT UNION ALLOWS THOUSANDS OF JOB CUTS THROUGH BSI WHEN WE DONT KNOW WHO WHERE OR WHY THIS IS HAPPENING!
Get a grip Union members just ask the damn question to your manager and REP, ask to see the agreement that allows any BSI, FFS and start asking your cluster DOM, Branch and area REP and upwards till you get to the CEO and DGS Postal section and even Billy Hayes.
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DGP1 wrote:
Cut Off King wrote:It means that 100% of your working day is accounted for.

Every min. is spent working.

No tea/coffee/cig. breaks

Your ass is grass, and your DOM's the lawnmower. :Very Happy
More accurately your IPS will be 29 letters per minute and your prep will be 25 letters per minute and you have to work at that speed for 100% of your time, it's happening in my office not not apparently in London because they don't recognise it.
Not true as far as I am aware. These stnadards dont exist.

Someone can correct me if i am wrong
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Re: BSI

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hampshireman wrote:
Not true as far as I am aware. These stnadards dont exist.

Someone can correct me if i am wrong
I think what he means is that the old one minute test values would have to be maintained 100% of the time.
That's why he picked those figures.
The real worry with BSI is that it is not a concrete figure....it is an ethos and one which any right thinking union would avoid if possible.
The ethos that a working man or woman can be thought of as a production machine that can be made more efficient simply by the use of incentivisation.
In Royal Mail the incentive is the stick....or the door. :cuppa
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Re: BSI

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fishtank wrote:
hampshireman wrote:
Not true as far as I am aware. These stnadards dont exist.

Someone can correct me if i am wrong
I think what he means is that the old one minute test values would have to be maintained 100% of the time.
That's why he picked those figures.
The real worry with BSI is that it is not a concrete figure....it is an ethos and one which any right thinking union would avoid if possible.
The ethos that a working man or woman can be thought of as a production machine that can be made more efficient simply by the use of incentivisation.
In Royal Mail the incentive is the stick....or the door. :cuppa
True FT, they have taken those figures and are using them to drive out hours indoor (because they can't get outside hours) but the problems arise when they can't get the work to us to be able to prep for 100% of the time :roll: RM really need to think about those figures (and ensure if they are coming in the everybody has to work to the same standard).
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