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spoodoo
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We have hardly any staff now loads full timers left & not replaced. Scarcely any sorters as the part timers fly about clearing off mail as we sort. A ll this time bosses(we had 4 this week) standing a few feet away trying to intimidate the few posties that sort, by standing there just watching. Its not our fault that theres not enough staff now to get everything sorted etc in time. The only reason half the jobs are out in time as they come in an hour early,sort d t doors at home, whats happened to the dignity and respect campaign?? The unions gone quiet too,,,
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George door to dawes
- Posts: 378
- Joined: 19 Feb 2011, 17:48
- Gender: Female
Re: no staff
We have this problem in the office but all i hear everyday is 'what about the part timers!?' 
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alhothi
- Posts: 44
- Joined: 01 Oct 2009, 21:07
- Gender: Male
Re: no staff
its been said a million times before on here, work your time the rest is up to them, they got in this s**t state.
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MAILMAN84
- Posts: 186
- Joined: 04 May 2008, 14:05
Re: no staff
Part timers have to make up our d2d, go round the same duties, wait on the full timers who dont leave the office till 10 when were supposed to be out at half 9 and we dont get paid ot cuz were classed as being ft....and we get £5 a week less for d2ds.....just sux. Waited years for ft, never gonna happen
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George door to dawes
- Posts: 378
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- Gender: Female
Re: no staff
I think the point is that its not the part timers fault clearing down their mail whilst your sortings fault. We only get paid to deliver and tie up so cant really expect us to do ips as well for free. But your situation is definitely out of order and i see our managers struggling to find full timers for ips and to throw walks in. Doesnt help when you have ptimers in my office who come in early to prep their own walk for free! We even have one who comes in early to prep his own walk and ends up being bullied to do ips as well in his own time!
I guess its just another problem to add to the list of things the union are letting us down on. Have you tried speaking to your area union rep? Not sure if it will help but probably worth a shot.
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taurus88
- Posts: 1259
- Joined: 14 Aug 2010, 17:53
- Gender: Male
Re: no staff
There's plenty of prats in RM. I can think of a few off-hand already:
Bloke 1 - Comes in at 8am, gets out by 10am, uses own car, doesn't take break, finishes at 2pm every day (5hrs pay)
Lass 1 - Comes in at 8am, gets out by 9.30am, uses own car, doesn't take break, finishes at 1.20pm every day (5hrs pay)
Bloke 2 - Comes in at 8am, gets out by 9.30am, uses own car, HAS WIFE MAKE UP D2DS at home, finishes at 1.10pm (5hrs pay)
Each of the above does more than the 4.5hrs work they're actually paid for, but the individual cases cannot be classified into such small categories as selfish. Some of these individuals are afraid, some of them them cannot stand up for themselves. They do not like confrontation or they value their employment more than they value their self-esteem. Two of the above three are on temporary contracts like myself and are aware that to be seen as a trouble-maker is one guaranteed way for RM to get rid of you and find another patsy. Royal Mail only likes people who will work for free, especially as it has brilliant ways of getting you to work for longer - for free. Me, I don't care for their games any more. I'll cut off every day and if it means toodles to another contract ... well. I'm not going to miss the job. I'm not going to miss anything. I believe in myself, I believe in my own abilities. I don't need to kneel in front of Royal Mail and fellate it - I'm better than that.
Bloke 1 - Comes in at 8am, gets out by 10am, uses own car, doesn't take break, finishes at 2pm every day (5hrs pay)
Lass 1 - Comes in at 8am, gets out by 9.30am, uses own car, doesn't take break, finishes at 1.20pm every day (5hrs pay)
Bloke 2 - Comes in at 8am, gets out by 9.30am, uses own car, HAS WIFE MAKE UP D2DS at home, finishes at 1.10pm (5hrs pay)
Each of the above does more than the 4.5hrs work they're actually paid for, but the individual cases cannot be classified into such small categories as selfish. Some of these individuals are afraid, some of them them cannot stand up for themselves. They do not like confrontation or they value their employment more than they value their self-esteem. Two of the above three are on temporary contracts like myself and are aware that to be seen as a trouble-maker is one guaranteed way for RM to get rid of you and find another patsy. Royal Mail only likes people who will work for free, especially as it has brilliant ways of getting you to work for longer - for free. Me, I don't care for their games any more. I'll cut off every day and if it means toodles to another contract ... well. I'm not going to miss the job. I'm not going to miss anything. I believe in myself, I believe in my own abilities. I don't need to kneel in front of Royal Mail and fellate it - I'm better than that.
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POSTMAN
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- Joined: 07 Aug 2006, 03:19
- Gender: Male
Re: no staff
Depends with can be done in your duty time,if you have time for IPS or prepping then you will be expected to do it.George door to dawes wrote:I think the point is that its not the part timers fault clearing down their mail whilst your sortings fault. We only get piad to deliver and tie up so cant really expect us to do ips as well for free. But your situation is definitely out of order and i see our managers struggling to find full timers for ips and to throw walks in.
If you haven't got time then fair enough.Don't be fooled into thinking i'm a part timer i only do such and such.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Lateagainpostie
- Posts: 393
- Joined: 23 Oct 2010, 18:17
- Gender: Male
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BT2010
- Posts: 352
- Joined: 11 Feb 2011, 20:45
- Gender: Male
Re: no staff
Lateagainpostie wrote:Just been made up to FT from PT,
top man, glad there is at least some good news coming from the BT2010.
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fishtank
- Posts: 19732
- Joined: 28 Sep 2007, 17:22
- Gender: Male
Re: no staff
Well done.Lateagainpostie wrote:Just been made up to FT from PT,
Have you seen your shiny new full-time contract yet?....be careful...check it over.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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hampshireman
- Posts: 792
- Joined: 18 Dec 2009, 15:17
- Gender: Male
Re: no staff
spoodoo wrote:We have hardly any staff now loads full timers left & not replaced. Scarcely any sorters as the part timers fly about clearing off mail as we sort. A ll this time bosses(we had 4 this week) standing a few feet away trying to intimidate the few posties that sort, by standing there just watching. Its not our fault that theres not enough staff now to get everything sorted etc in time. The only reason half the jobs are out in time as they come in an hour early,sort d t doors at home, whats happened to the dignity and respect campaign?? The unions gone quiet too,,,
Is that a problem with PT?
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REDLETTER
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 748
- Joined: 27 Oct 2008, 19:00
- Gender: Male
- Location: EX-ROYAL MAIL
Re: no staff
That's a big ifPOSTMAN wrote:Depends with can be done in your duty time,if you have time for IPS or prepping then you will be expected to do it.George door to dawes wrote:I think the point is that its not the part timers fault clearing down their mail whilst your sortings fault. We only get piad to deliver and tie up so cant really expect us to do ips as well for free. But your situation is definitely out of order and i see our managers struggling to find full timers for ips and to throw walks in.
If you haven't got time then fair enough.Don't be fooled into thinking i'm a part timer i only do such and such.
Managers love to use "it's a light day so everyone on sorting" If it was a F**cking light day why are everyone sorting!
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Lateagainpostie
- Posts: 393
- Joined: 23 Oct 2010, 18:17
- Gender: Male
Re: no staff
fishtank wrote:Well done.Lateagainpostie wrote:Just been made up to FT from PT,![]()
Have you seen your shiny new full-time contract yet?....be careful...check it over.
If you love Man Utd, you'll love my forum Talkingreds
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Dorset Plodder
- Posts: 4351
- Joined: 29 Apr 2009, 20:05
- Gender: Male
Re: no staff
Congrats Lateagain
We'd better not hear you on here moaning about how busy you are now! 
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
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George door to dawes
- Posts: 378
- Joined: 19 Feb 2011, 17:48
- Gender: Female
Re: no staff
But normally the part timers at my DO that the linos are picking on are going over everyday without doing any ips!POSTMAN wrote:Depends with can be done in your duty time,if you have time for IPS or prepping then you will be expected to do it.George door to dawes wrote:I think the point is that its not the part timers fault clearing down their mail whilst your sortings fault. We only get piad to deliver and tie up so cant really expect us to do ips as well for free. But your situation is definitely out of order and i see our managers struggling to find full timers for ips and to throw walks in.
If you haven't got time then fair enough.Don't be fooled into thinking i'm a part timer i only do such and such.