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Tracked items

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prowler
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Tracked items

Post by prowler »

My line manager told me this morning I had not scanned a tracked item. I'm 100% sure I have scanned it and told him so. I came back to the obligatory letter. Has anyone else experienced this? Also, if they can't prove the system is 100%, then they can't prove I have not scanned the item, as its' merely my word against theirs. Am I right or am I wrong?
Dogs of War
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Post by Dogs of War »

You working the day?
prowler
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Post by prowler »

Yes
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Post by Dogs of War »

Is it not good friday. Your working in Scotland?
Indy
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Post by Indy »

prowler wrote: I came back to the obligatory letter.
What does it say?
prowler
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Post by prowler »

Oh, I haven't opened it yet but it will be the same as the last one I got when I genuinely missed scanning a tracked, saying that I am not up to the required standard and may need retraining. I've delivered 100's of tracked items and only missed one, but got a letter saying I was not up to the required standard. That's why I make sure I scan every one now. In other words, they now expect 100% efficiency from everyone.
What I'm trying to find out is if anybody else has experienced the same. Given the problems we have with PDA's, are they telling me the system is foolproof? If it's not, then he can't prove I've not scanned it, when I say I have.
maninred
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Post by maninred »

I assume that he has looked at this through the Blackbay system and found that this item wasn't scanned?
prowler
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Post by prowler »

That's fine, but doesn't really answer my question.
fishtank
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Post by fishtank »

prowler wrote:That's fine, but doesn't really answer my question.
Your question is one that pops up on here quite a lot.
Are managers bound by the burden of proof?
The answer is unfortunately....no.
Just reasonable assumption. :sad:
He assumes that you didn't scan it and given that the PDA is 99% accurate...he deems it a reasonable assumption.
It doesn't mean he is right....but it doesn't matter either. :cuppa
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Hitcher
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Post by Hitcher »

I don't even understand the point of them myself - drivers scan them and either doorstep them (what's to stop them being nicked) or give them to us to deliver later in the day.
maninred
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Post by maninred »

Hitcher wrote:I don't even understand the point of them myself - drivers scan them and either doorstep them (what's to stop them being nicked) or give them to us to deliver later in the day.
:sad: :shock:
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Post by DGP1 »

Hitcher wrote:I don't even understand the point of them myself - drivers scan them and either doorstep them (what's to stop them being nicked) or give them to us to deliver later in the day.
Not allowed to doorstep them, your drivers need to read the rules again. The only ones that you can leave are the ones with specific instructions to do so (ie. leave in garage, leave at number 22 etc.).
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dvbuk55
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Post by dvbuk55 »

DGP1 wrote:
Hitcher wrote:I don't even understand the point of them myself - drivers scan them and either doorstep them (what's to stop them being nicked) or give them to us to deliver later in the day.
Not allowed to doorstep them, your drivers need to read the rules again. The only ones that you can leave are the ones with specific instructions to do so (ie. leave in garage, leave at number 22 etc.).
Nor should they put the onus on someone who hasn't got a PDA - we had an instance where the driver showed the packet as delivered and the postie shoved it through the wrong door in the wrong street................................. guess what?
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Post by fishtank »

I got a message on my PDA on thursday saying that some tracked items were failing due to the wrong barcode being scanned on some of the items. :neutral:
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Post by DGP1 »

fishtank wrote:I got a message on my PDA on thursday saying that some tracked items were failing due to the wrong barcode being scanned on some of the items. :neutral:
BT ones, scanning the BT code instead of the RM one :roll:
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