Looking for some information

[Patrick Clifton]

Good afternoon.

I am seeking some information. I have done a search for what I am looking for but have been unable to find the particular piece that my memory tells me exists.

I am after something relating to D2D's and that, in the future, numerous amounts of D2D's would be produced in a 'wallet' for delivery.

I do know that I remember reading this somewhere a while back, but I cannot remember if it was at national or local level.

Can anyone help?

[Straight4ward]

I don't recall anything hard and fast on this, only talk on here.
The following may help;

The New Delivery Supplement Explained

by Razzamadazz » Yesterday, 20:45
There has always been an agreement that the maximum D2D contracts per week is three, this limit has stifled the business in the past and has stopped it from being competitive in a very lucrative market. Currently the UK market leaders in the D2D’s is TNT, i.e. TNT own the largest amount of contracts of the overall UK market, placing leaflets in the national press, Sunday newspaper supplements, national magazines ect. Royal Mail however owns a much smaller amount of contracts due to the maximum limit of three contracts per week. The remaining part of the UK market is owned by smaller companies who place leaflets inside local newspapers and some magazines for example. Raising the limit on D2D’s now gives Royal Mail the ability, for the first time; to actively compete with TNT and other companies for the lion’s share of this very profitable market.

There is a fear between delivery personnel that by raising the cap on D2D, delivery personnel will be flooded with more and more D2Ds, more than they can cope with. To hopefully allay some of those fears, currently even if Royal Mail was to obtain 100% of the UK D2D market it would only equate to about nine contracts, but don’t be alarmed by the thought of delivering nine sets of D2D’s per week, across the world other postal industries such as America for example deliver as many as they can, they do this by employing mailing houses which prepare, and or fold the leaflets before placing them into what they call a “sheath” this is like an envelope which is designed to carry all the leaflets as one item, when it is posted through the letter box it opens up to present the leaflets in like a splayed out fan for the customer to choose which D2D’s they wish to retain, the ones they don’t want, hopefully they will throw in the ‘paper recycling bin’. If Royal Mail, and by all accounts this is how they are looking to present D2Ds in the future, instead of employing the services of a mailing house, I’m sure the CWU will be negotiating to keep this work in house, i.e. Walk bundling Centres for example, which will maintain and or increase jobs. In the interim period before these ‘sheaths’ are available the Business Transformation – 2010 & Beyond agreement states: ‘In the interim to ensure that D2D workload is covered effectively in line with this agreement, and in advance of units realigning duties through full revision activity to take account of D2D, resourcing of hours associated with the workload linked to D2D will be dealt with through locally agreed interim arrangements and reviewed through the weekly resourcing meetings in all delivery units. To aid the transition, offices that have not deployed delivery methods revisions will have to provide genuine and demonstrable solutions to any weight or volumetric issues’.

People talk about an environmental issue with the cap being lifted on D2D’s, all Royal Mail want to do is offer a better service by delivering for the current market. Royal Mail can’t increase the current market on D2D’s it can only compete for the delivery of the market as it stands which in turn, if successful, will create more jobs, give better job security and a viable opportunity for the CWU to make claim to any increased profit for future basic pay increases. The only people that can increase that market are the people who produce the D2D’s in the first place, not Royal Mail.

I personally can’t see how the lifting of the cap on D2D’s will turn the general public against postal workers, yes you might hear some complain about, as they call it “junk mail” but to a postal worker this is bread and butter on the table, it’s what feeds the family and maintains a standard of living. The general public also complain about bills they receive through the post, but inevitably they can’t avoid them. If Royal Mail didn’t deliver the bills, the companies who send out the bills would find someone else or an alternative way to deliver them. Why would we want to turn away work that feeds our families and ‘pays our bills’.

I’ve heard people say that the general public ‘hate’ the D2D’s that Royal Mail deliver, if this is true then why do companies spend so much money on printing them and paying Royal Mail to deliver them? One simple answer ‘they increase sales’ if they didn’t the companies wouldn’t waste their money on them. So if D2D’s increase sales for these companies, somebody (i.e. the general public) must be reading them before they throw them in the ‘paper recycling bin’.

“The unaddressed Door to Door market provides an opportunity to grow volume which will potentially help to protect jobs and bring additional revenue into the business”, this statement taken from the agreement is true, the more work we have, the more jobs we have, the more revenue we have, the more opportunity the union have to make claim to that revenue in the future and negotiate an increase in basic pay and the £20.60 supplement.

I think that what people need to understand is that, the D2D service Royal Mail provides to their customers is a "Royal Mail Product", the same as Special Delivery items, Mailsort items, packets, letters and all other streams of mail. My point here is, delivery personnel don't get paid any extra money for delivering any other stream of mail, it was the CWU, that many years ago, negotiated an "extra payment" for D2Ds. At the beginning of the most recent negotiations Royal Mail’s stance was, as they currently couldn’t compete in the UK D2D market with a cap of three contracts per week, they would introduce D2D’s into workload, remove the capping and give a one off lump sum payment. This would mean losing D2D payments for ever and lift the capping of three for no extra payment. However the CWU successfully managed to negotiate as part of the new agreement, to secure part of the revenue made on Royal Mail products and incorporate it, together with the early morning shift allowance, into a delivery supplement.

The £20.60 incorporates the early shift allowance (ESA) “shown as Network 2007 Pay Protection on peoples wage slip” worth £12.37 and a claim against revenue made on Royal Mail products. My understanding for the reason ESA was looked at to make up part of the new delivery supplement was mostly due to the agreement reached in 2007 on Pay & Modernisation. The 2007 Pay & Modernisation agreement stated that the CWU and Royal Mail would “agree how this money, and equivalent MTSF payments for early shifts, may be used going forward as part of the pay restructuring process in Joint Working Group 2 – if no satisfactory solution is found then grandfather rights will be retained. The early shift payment is ceased in delivery on agreement to pay restructuring”. Therefore rather than lose that money altogether they looked at how they could restructure pay and secure as much money as possible for the future. In coming up with the decision to agree a delivery supplement the CWU negotiators also considered several other factors, aims and options such as:

• As people leave the business the ESA is lost, £3, million was lost to this last year alone.
• Only two thirds of delivery members were being paid D2D money
• Secure the delivery supplement over 52 weeks of the year
• Individuals in receipt of pensionable allowances incorporated into this payment will retain full pensionability of those elements on a reserved rights basis.
• Spread the money across the whole of the business by increasing basic pay by about half a percent
• Keep the ESA of £12.37 as “grandfather rights” and still lose the money on D2D’s or agree upon a £20.60 delivery supplement
• Lose all the money completely by not reaching an agreement

Having said all this there is one question that keeps coming back again and again, Why is the new delivery supplement only being paid on a pro rata basis for part time employees? The £20.60 delivery supplement divided by 39 (39hrs = the new full time hours) £20.60 / 39 = 0.52 (approximately) per hour. Most part time delivery contracts are currently 25hrs, so I’ll use 25hrs as the example. So, 25 x £0.52 = £13.00. With the introduction of the shorter working week by one hour, this automatically raises every ones hourly rate from £8.69 to £8.91, on a part time, 25hr contract that increases the weekly wage from £217.25 to £222.82, an increase of £5.57 per week. Some people have said to me that full time workers get the extra also because of the one hour reduction in the working week but actually they don’t. To explain, as wages currently stand without the proposed basic pay increase, the reduction in the full time hours has been reduced by one hour, from 40hrs per week to 39hrs per week, the hour reduction is spread across the remaining 39 hours, this automatically raises the hourly rate and full time workers will now be paid £347.61 for a 39hr week instead of £347.61 for a 40hr week.

People have also asked if the delivery supplement could be allocated on a fairer basis between F/T and P/T workers. If the money available was spread out evenly between F/T & P/T delivery members, this would reduce the supplement of £20.60 to about £18.00 each. So using this scenario, everyone gets £18.00, which seems fair, but is it? Think of what I said earlier i.e. with the introduction of the shorter working week by one hour, this automatically raises every ones hourly rate from £8.69 to £8.91, on a part time, 25hr contract that increases the weekly wage from about £217.25 to £222.82, an increase of £5.57 per week. So put the £18.00 and the £5.57 together, you have F/T workers receiving and extra £18.00 and P/T workers receiving an extra £23.57. I think there’d be a few disgruntled full time workers with this scenario.
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[POSTMAN]

Oi! you still aint deleted that silly Facebook page.

[Straight4ward]

Who you talking to?

What silly facebook page?

[Patrick Clifton]

That could be what was lurking at the back of my memory.

Thank you :)

[Patrick Clifton]

Oi! you still aint deleted that silly Facebook page.

I dont recall saying I was going to be deleting it?!

[fishtank]

The BTA agreement says...

The CWU will be involved in quarterly review meetings, which will provide an opportunity for the CWU and Royal Mail to review operational challenges, product developments, and work together to identify new products and further growth opportunities, including the potential for automation which will be driven by commercial viability linked to volume.

That's as far as it will ever get....potential.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

It was also covered in the BT2010 agreement - which may have just gone to the wall however here is the passage in it:

Page 21

Furthermore it is equally important that the process of moving D2D to the delivery/prep frame needs to become more professional and reliable. Particular attention will need to be paid to the correct presentation of Door to Door material to each delivery route in line with other mail items/products.
The CWU will be involved in quarterly review meetings, which will provide an opportunity for the CWU and Royal Mail to review operational challenges, product developments, and work together to identify new products and further growth opportunities, including the potential for automation which will be driven by commercial viability linked to volume.

Blimey Fishtank types fast

[Patrick Clifton]

The BTA agreement says...

The CWU will be involved in quarterly review meetings, which will provide an opportunity for the CWU and Royal Mail to review operational challenges, product developments, and work together to identify new products and further growth opportunities, including the potential for automation which will be driven by commercial viability linked to volume.

That's as far as it will ever get....potential.

I saw that during the search I done trying to find it :)

I think the piece I was remembering was the quote that straight4wrd posted.

Thanks for your help.

[fishtank]

Although i have to add that financial viability is mostly driven by what it costs at the moment to collate by hand in a D.O. and as long as tossers are doing it in their own time you have feck all chance of ever seeing it automated into one sleeve,thank your colleagues for that one....arseholes.

[POSTMAN]

Oi! you still aint deleted that silly Facebook page.

I dont recall saying I was going to be deleting it?!

You should.

[Patrick Clifton]

Oi! you still aint deleted that silly Facebook page.

I dont recall saying I was going to be deleting it?!

You should.

Thats your opinion

[POSTMAN]

Who you talking to?

What silly facebook page?

Have 'you' got a silly Facebook page?

[Straight4ward]

POSTMAN I spend far too much time on here to be arsed with f-f-f-f-facebook.

What is facebook anyway? No seriously, what is it?

Oh, who cares. I rather be down the pub.

[REDLETTER]

POSTMAN I spend far too much time on here to be arsed with f-f-f-f-facebook.

What is facebook anyway? No seriously, what is it?

Oh, who cares. I rather be down the pub.

there is a Facebook page called: Going Down the Pub