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THE FIGHT'S NOT OVER YET . . .

Post by billypants »

I'm getting a bit concerned at all the negative comments I'm reading on here about the suspension of action for 3 weeks

Let's get this in perspective . . . the CWU promised from day one that if Leighton entered meaningful talks they would stop the strikes, they kept their word and have just suspended action whilst they make sure he is serious about negotiating and not just reiterating old points. The agreement to cease action has within it the right to withdraw and restart action at any point if the union believe Leighton is wasting their time.

We have all been on the picket lines to force Royal Mail to listen to us and that is what the union is now making sure happens, we now have to trust the CWU to negotiate on our behalf a worthwhile deal.

Why start slagging the union off now before they've told us what that deal is, we've done our bit, now we have to let the top union boys do theirs. . . . . reserve judgement until that deal is announced and then we get our say again.

Untill that time we must not stop our fight at local levels, don't go back to old ways and keep working to those 318's

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Re: THE FIGHT'S NOT OVER YET . . .

Post by bristolchris »

billypants wrote:I'm getting a bit concerned at all the negative comments I'm reading on here about the suspension of action for 3 weeks

Let's get this in perspective . . . the CWU promised from day one that if Leighton entered meaningful talks they would stop the strikes, they kept their word and have just suspended action whilst they make sure he is serious about negotiating and not just reiterating old points. The agreement to cease action has within it the right to withdraw and restart action at any point if the union believe Leighton is wasting their time.

We have all been on the picket lines to force Royal Mail to listen to us and that is what the union is now making sure happens, we now have to trust the CWU to negotiate on our behalf a worthwhile deal.

Why start slagging the union off now before they've told us what that deal is, we've done our bit, now we have to let the top union boys do theirs. . . . . reserve judgement until that deal is announced and then we get our say again.

Untill that time we must not stop our fight at local levels, don't go back to old ways and keep working to those 318's

:Applause :Applause :Applause TOGETHER WE MUST FIGHT ON :Applause :Applause :Applause

I agree, all we have at the moment is a pause, lets not lose heart while these`talks` are ongoing. Why should we assume they will NOT be to OUR advantage? I really can not understand why this should be, maybe because of what has happened in the past? if so, we can not change that. We live in the present. We brought big AL&C TO THE NEGOTIATION `TABLE` not the other way round! If we need to, we can do it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So lets wait and see, we have been `heard` when they both tried to ignore us, even I do not think they are so stupid as to think we will not continue if a FAIR RESOLOUTION can not be found. Lets be a bit more upbeat about all of this, we have done well, we have given the Union PEC a `good hand ` to play from.

(Negotiation = to confer with another so as to arrive at the settlement of some matter through conference, discussion, and compromise.)

Now if WE are not happy with what the PEC do, we tell them to continue negotiating. untill they get the best for us they/we can, chins up everyone.
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billypants, mate..........

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I think I love you, but I'm a man's man, so it can't be love, more like admiration ! :oops:
Very well said, chum. :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause
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Post by madelin4 »

yep. well said billypants..lets all keep busy and keep busy in the meantime. :crazy:
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Post by waffler »

Good on you billypants I too was surprised at all the negativity on here 'suspended until 4th september' was what it said, at least the public support will not wane. In my office they tried keeping us sorting 'til 07:30 last week so we all cut off. They went back to stopping at the usual time this week leaving mail for the S.A. boys to do and lapsing first wave collections, but when the office became the one with the most backlog in the area the screws left hand began to grope for the right and O/T was offered yesterday to clear it. Amazing what a lack of goodwill can do. If this is the pattern in other places maybe all of us that stayed out should give ourselves some of this :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause

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Post by POSTMAN »

I think it's a mixed bag at the mo guys,tbf i've perhaps calmed a bit as well
There's been some very good posts on it all.
In all fairness the union have always said 'You negotiate and we'll stop the IA'
So,we're here now,lets hope we come out all right-ish.
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Post by bigsharkboy »

POSTMAN wrote:I think it's a mixed bag at the mo guys,tbf i've perhaps calmed a bit as well
There's been some very good posts on it all.
In all fairness the union have always said 'You negotiate and we'll stop the IA'
So,we're here now,lets hope we come out all right-ish.

the CWU have kept the high moral ground we have kept our word all the way thru this IA

royal mail have shown how low they are prepared to go and s**t on there workforce

i know who i trust and so do my fellow workers in my office
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negativity

Post by gspot01 »

This is not real negativity.

Its just that all the lazy gits were enjoyin an extra day off every week and treatin it like a holiday, how do you think it was so hard to get them to picket.

Thought I might have got a hard time encouraging men to go on strike, but instead i am gettin a hard time cause we have asked them to go back to work ha ha

Cant Win.

Just to let :lfo and :cfo know that if they dont come up with the goods then our lads love the holidays and cause they like u so much for forcin them to take them they have sent you lots of kisses . x x x x x x x x x x
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Post by billypants »

OK things seem to have calmed down a bit now and people are realising that everything is still going well for us and not to panic . . . . but I must say I would hope the CWU would give us a few words of encouragement soon, something about how the talks are progressing, I know there's a secrecy agreement but just a rough idea of good/bad would do right now . . . . anyone heard anything worth mentioning
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Post by L Tommo »

billypants wrote:OK things seem to have calmed down a bit now and people are realising that everything is still going well for us and not to panic . . . . but I must say I would hope the CWU would give us a few words of encouragement soon, something about how the talks are progressing, I know there's a secrecy agreement but just a rough idea of good/bad would do right now . . . . anyone heard anything worth mentioning
This post and your starting one Is just how WE.. The CWU should play it.... BUT NEVER LET GO OF OUR RIGHTS TO CARRY ON THE STRIKE..... :no no :no no :no no :no no :no no :no no :no no All i can say on a + note... "HOW MANY TIMES DO WE NEED TO KNOW THEY LIE AND CHEAT AND WILL NEVER CHANGE UNLESS WE CHANGE."? (1) OUR WAYS OF WORKING. ie 318's .(2) NEVER LETTING SLIP OUR GOOD WILL AGAIN... ?? DONT DO A THING IF THEY AINT PAYING...... NEVER..... IT AINT A FECKING CHARITY!!

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