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taken off your own duty
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daveyeff
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taken off your own duty
a colleague at work was told to come off his own duty (just for the day) and to do another duty for that day, this was because a lad had been brought in to work his day off, but he did not know the duty they had brought him in for. the guy who was taken off his rostered duty knew both duties, so, management said, there is a new procedure involving operational needs called 'matrix'.....(nowt to do with the film). has anyone heard off this?? i,ve heard of operational needs, but it seems they are just making shyte up to suit themselves. im of the opinion if you are brought in on your day off, you should not be able to pick and choose,,,,if you cant do the duty they want covered, then dont come in.
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Thehair
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Re: taken off your own duty
Is "Operational needs" mentioned in the 318? probably yes!
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fishtank
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Re: taken off your own duty
Exactly...operational needs cover operational needs.daveyeff wrote:if you cant do the duty they want covered, then dont come in.
They are not a get out clause for stupid management decisions.
"matrix" is just some bollox your manager made up to sound clever.
It didn't work.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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enzio
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Re: taken off your own duty
if the fellow new both dutys what the harm in moving i do it all the time it makes a change from the norm.but if you come in to do o/t you should do what ever there is really if you want the money do the work 
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PhilthyPhil
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Re: taken off your own duty
This happens every single day in my office including to me almost every week. Ideally the person coming in on their day off should be put on whatever is not covered but often this is just not practical especially with rurals. Also if they say they will only come in to do a certain duty then the manager is always going to move people to accommodate them rather than fail USO or have to go out and do it themselves.
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youwot!!!!!
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Re: taken off your own duty
take a look at the bottom of yor 318 and it will probably say "as directed".this means they can withdraw you from your duty and make you do another one but only within your scheduled hours.if it does not match your hours then tell them where to shove it.
who the hell invests £2 billion into a servic and makes it worse?????????????
you really couldn't make it up!!!!!!!!!!!
you really couldn't make it up!!!!!!!!!!!
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fishtank
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Re: taken off your own duty
Yes it might say "as directed" youwot but there should be a genuine operational need for it and just to make some guys O/T a little easier on him is not a genuine operational need.youwot!!!!! wrote:take a look at the bottom of yor 318 and it will probably say "as directed".this means they can withdraw you from your duty and make you do another one but only within your scheduled hours.if it does not match your hours then tell them where to shove it.
Managers should never be allowed to abuse the "as directed" excuse otherwise there is no point in picking duties in the first place...you might as well just roll over and take whatever they throw at you.
I thought you guys in the mailcentre were hardcore.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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POSTMAN
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Re: taken off your own duty
A lot of this boils down to the wank w*****s coming in on their day off for an easy ride. 
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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clashcityrocker
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Re: taken off your own duty
If offices were fully staffed, nobody would be working their day off anyway.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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mandelsons_toenail
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Re: taken off your own duty
ive been moved off my duty tomorrow onto a rural
Ive had enough
any tips on a draft letter for resigning from driving duties
Ive had enough
any tips on a draft letter for resigning from driving duties
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POSTMAN
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Re: taken off your own duty
Chances are you wont be able to 'resign from driving',once a driver always a driver.mandelsons_toenail wrote:ive been moved off my duty tomorrow onto a rural
Ive had enough
any tips on a draft letter for resigning from driving duties
Try and get a note from your doctor about something or another that means you are unable to drive for longish periods.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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fishtank
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Re: taken off your own duty
Narcolepsy...difficult to diagnose...deadly for a driver.POSTMAN wrote:Chances are you wont be able to 'resign from driving',once a driver always a driver.mandelsons_toenail wrote:ive been moved off my duty tomorrow onto a rural
Ive had enough
any tips on a draft letter for resigning from driving duties![]()
Try and get a note from your doctor about something or another that means you are unable to drive for longish periods.
Watch though because if DVLA get wind of it they will have your license off you in a heartbeat.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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clashcityrocker
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Re: taken off your own duty
Incontinence
Piss easy to diagnose.
Piss easy to diagnose.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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fishtank
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Re: taken off your own duty
Takes ages to clear up though.clashcityrocker wrote:Incontinence
Piss easy to diagnose.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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Broxi51
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Re: taken off your own duty
Can you not just volunteer to work your day off and say that you will do the duty that the person who pissed you off is on instead of the one management wants you to do.
If they allow you to do this duty then you piss off the person who pissed you off and if management say no, then you throw in a grievance stating favouritism.
That should stop the problem.
Sorry about using the word pissed but that was due to subliminal programming from clash & FT's posts above
If they allow you to do this duty then you piss off the person who pissed you off and if management say no, then you throw in a grievance stating favouritism.
That should stop the problem.
Sorry about using the word pissed but that was due to subliminal programming from clash & FT's posts above
The time has come to stop turning the other cheek, time to stop shaking our heads in bitter dismay, time to stop mumbling our angry words.
The time has come for union.
The time has come for union.