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claiming fuel

Post by kizzy »

I travel to the delevery office to work but then I choose to travel to my route area and do my round on completion I come home.I understand I can claim fuel at 40p per mile ( not alot in this day and age what with fuel so high ).
But how do I go about this and what bit of the jorney am I entitled to cliam for ?
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Re: claiming fuel

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This car thing with you. :arrrghhh
To me your post does not make sense,go to your DO and get a lift out and back,you do not get mileage for taking your car out to your delivery point,if that is what you mean.
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Post by pyphon »

you only get mileage when you are loaned to another office and use your own transport
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Re: claiming fuel

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POSTMAN wrote:This car thing with you. :arrrghhh
To me your post does not make sense,go to your DO and get a lift out and back,you do not get mileage for taking your car out to your delivery point,if that is what you mean.
And claim OT when you are late back which is slightly better than 40p per mile.
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Re: claiming fuel

Post by madmartin »

Why should they pay you to use your car when there are busses or bikes you can use? anyway you shouldnt be using your car on delivery, you're putting jobs at risk.
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Re: claiming fuel

Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

kizzy wrote:I travel to the delevery office to work but then I choose to travel to my route area and do my round on completion I come home.I understand I can claim fuel at 40p per mile ( not alot in this day and age what with fuel so high ).
But how do I go about this and what bit of the jorney am I entitled to cliam for ?

your not entitled to claim milage for any part of what you have stated, however i have posted below the rules on business milage and you need to ask for an r85 form from your tax office

the reason your not entitled is you are not required to use your own car as part of your delivery


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Tax relief for business mileage or fuelYou may be able to get tax relief for business mileage when you use your own vehicle on business, or for fuel you buy when you use a company car. You can go back several years to get the relief - the time you've got depends on whether you've previously sent in a Self Assessment tax return.

On this page:

■What counts as business mileage?
■Tax relief for business mileage in your own vehicle
■Tax relief for fuel when using a company vehicle
■How to get tax relief for business mileage or fuel
What counts as business mileage?
Business mileage is mileage you travel doing your job. It can include travel to a temporary work place but it doesn't include:

•normal travel between home (or anywhere that is not a workplace) and your permanent workplace
•private travel
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Tax relief for business mileage in your own vehicle
You may be able to get tax relief for business mileage if you use your own vehicle for work. It can be a car, van, motorcycle or cycle.

You can work out the amount of tax relief – called ‘Mileage Allowance Relief’ - to which you are entitled like this:

1. add up your business miles travelled in the tax year
2. multiply your business miles by the approved mileage rate to work out the approved amount – follow the link below for the latest approved mileage rates
3. add up any mileage allowance payments received from your employer
4. compare any mileage allowance payments received with the approved amount

If the approved amount's more, you're entitled to Mileage Allowance Relief on the difference.

For example, you use your own car for 850 business miles and your employer pays you 30p per mile. The approved amount is £340 (850 times 40p). The allowance you get from your employer is £255 (850 times 30p). Your Mileage Allowance Relief is £85 (£340 less £255).

You are only entitled to Mileage Allowance Relief if your employer pays you:

•no mileage allowance
•less than the approved amount
If your employer pays you more than the approved amount, you'll have to pay tax on the extra.
Get details of approved mileage rates

Records you must keep
You need to keep records of dates, mileage and details of all work journeys. Your employer needs this information to make expenses payments to you. You also need them to get any Mileage Allowance Relief.

If you use different vehicles
If you use more than one vehicle of the same kind add all your business miles together in one calculation.

If you use vehicles of different kinds make separate calculations for each one.

Find out how vehicles are grouped

If you work for different employers
If you have two or more employers which are independent of each other, you're due the higher mileage rate for business mileage in each job.

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Tax relief for fuel when using a company vehicle
If you pay for fuel when using a company vehicle for business travel you can get tax relief on fuel costs, less any payments repaid by your employer and covered by a 'dispensation'. You must keep a record of your business mileage to calculate your expenses.

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How to get tax relief for business mileage or fuel
To find out how you can get tax relief for your business mileage or fuel and the time limits for getting it, read the guide 'How to get allowances and reliefs - employees or directors' by following the link below.
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Re: claiming fuel

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My fellow posties and i have to drive 1/2 a mile to pick up our vans in the morning. We then finish, park back up, and then drive back in our own cars to the sorting office with trays etc. Ok, its only 5 miles a week, but, 20 miles a month, 240 miles a year.........Moneys money, and fuel is not getting cheaper!
Can we claim anything for this?
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tommythreesheds wrote:My fellow posties and i have to drive 1/2 a mile to pick up our vans in the morning. We then finish, park back up, and then drive back in our own cars to the sorting office with trays etc. Ok, its only 5 miles a week, but, 20 miles a month, 240 miles a year.........Moneys money, and fuel is not getting cheaper!
Can we claim anything for this?
can't you walk half mile to pick your vans up :crazy: or are you taking the piss?
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Re: claiming fuel

Post by tommythreesheds »

Should we have too? How many others have to do this? I'm not taking the piss, just asking.
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Re: claiming fuel

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tommythreesheds wrote:My fellow posties and i have to drive 1/2 a mile to pick up our vans in the morning. We then finish, park back up, and then drive back in our own cars to the sorting office with trays etc. Ok, its only 5 miles a week, but, 20 miles a month, 240 miles a year.........Moneys money, and fuel is not getting cheaper!
Can we claim anything for this?
You got to be joking, you don't have to drive any where, it's your car. RM should provide a van to drop you to the other vans, refuse to use your car. If you want to use your car then I would request some type of payment for using your own vehicle, if RM refuse then don't use your car, simple!
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Re: claiming fuel

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tommythreesheds wrote:My fellow posties and i have to drive 1/2 a mile to pick up our vans in the morning. We then finish, park back up, and then drive back in our own cars to the sorting office with trays etc. Ok, its only 5 miles a week, but, 20 miles a month, 240 miles a year.........Moneys money, and fuel is not getting cheaper!
Can we claim anything for this?
Why don't you drop the trays off first then go get your cars...or am i missing something? :crazy:
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Re: claiming fuel

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tommythreesheds wrote:My fellow posties and i have to drive 1/2 a mile to pick up our vans in the morning. We then finish, park back up, and then drive back in our own cars to the sorting office with trays etc. Ok, its only 5 miles a week, but, 20 miles a month, 240 miles a year.........Moneys money, and fuel is not getting cheaper!
Can we claim anything for this?
You lost me here :hmmmm

Why dont you use the RM van to take back the trays etc ? why drive your own car back to the sorting office carring RM equipment ?

Drive half a mile with fuel at 1.30 odd a litre are you nuts !. I park my car and cycle a mile into the office and then a mile out again its not really that hard.
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Re: claiming fuel

Post by tommythreesheds »

As i said, i don't feel i'm taking the piss by asking, but walking......fair do's, but would you want to if it was pissing down/snowing/icy/blowing a gale. I just find it weird that allowances are not made for staff in this position. I would love to walk out my sorting office and unlock my van. Some posties may even be worse off, i don't know.......
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Re: claiming fuel

Post by krussel »

kizzy wrote:I can claim fuel at 40p per mile
Of course you cant :roll: If you use your car its your fuel, your tax, and your wear and tear out of your pocket and just pray you do not get robbed. :arrrghhh

Occasionally i will drive to my local office to pick something up for my own office on my way to work. I then book one hours overtime for the trip which is easier than trying to claim fuel allowance.
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Re: claiming fuel

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tommythreesheds wrote:As i said, i don't feel i'm taking the piss by asking, but walking......fair do's, but would you want to if it was pissing down/snowing/icy/blowing a gale. I just find it weird that allowances are not made for staff in this position. I would love to walk out my sorting office and unlock my van. Some posties may even be worse off, i don't know.......
I find it strange your vans are not near your office i assume parking problems ?
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