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accident at work

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Hi i had an accident at work pushing overweight trolly. I asked for time to visit physio 1 hour, i was told to make up for this time even this accident was at work, the union rep agrrees with the maneger decision. Is this right?
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punjabi wrote:Hi i had an accident at work pushing overweight trolly. I ask for time to visit physio, i was told to make up for this time even this accident was at work, the union rep agrrees with the maneger decision. Is this right?
Interesting - first question would be why where you pushing an overweight trolley - did you load it, and if you did why did you not arrange for the load to be broken down. If this is what happened then you were primarily responsible for the accident - in fact your lucky not to have been conducted for failing to follow H&S guidelines.

If you did not load it, did you weigh it before using it or did the accident happen on the way to the scales - if this happened then you should not be conducted but an investigation should have happened as it should have happened in the abover scenario.

Now as to treatment for the injury I'm not sure about making up hours but would think if you are partially to blame for the accident it may have a bearing on it - lets hope a H&S rep or one of really good IR reps sees your post.
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
punjabi wrote:Hi i had an accident at work pushing overweight trolly. I ask for time to visit physio, i was told to make up for this time even this accident was at work, the union rep agrrees with the maneger decision. Is this right?
Interesting - first question would be why where you pushing an overweight trolley - did you load it, and if you did why did you not arrange for the load to be broken down. If this is what happened then you were primarily responsible for the accident - in fact your lucky not to have been conducted for failing to follow H&S guidelines.

If you did not load it, did you weigh it before using it or did the accident happen on the way to the scales - if this happened then you should not be conducted but an investigation should have happened as it should have happened in the abover scenario.

Now as to treatment for the injury I'm not sure about making up hours but would think if you are partially to blame for the accident it may have a bearing on it - lets hope a H&S rep or one of really good IR reps sees your post.

tell them you were on your way to the public weigh bridge as it was too heavy for RMs scales :left:
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How do you know it was overwight ? and you should pull a trolly not push, if you knew it was overwight then you are to blame, it maybe harsh but thats how it goes.
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they must see it as your to blame as i go to physo every other week after a accedent on duty an they are great with me and give me all the time i need
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yep. was a full accident investigation carried out?
did you record the accident in the accident book?

have you registered the accident as an industrial injury with the DWP?

if you need physio was it suggested by ATOS or your own GP?

are you on light duties?
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Brother banddy where have you been of late all accidents within RM are reported electronically via ERICA which has been on the go since about 2006. Accident Books are obsolete or meant to be within Royal Mail.
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punjabi,were you trained on loading/using the trolley?
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
punjabi wrote:Hi i had an accident at work pushing overweight trolly. I ask for time to visit physio, i was told to make up for this time even this accident was at work, the union rep agrrees with the maneger decision. Is this right?
Interesting - first question would be why where you pushing an overweight trolley - did you load it, and if you did why did you not arrange for the load to be broken down. If this is what happened then you were primarily responsible for the accident - in fact your lucky not to have been conducted for failing to follow H&S guidelines.

If you did not load it, did you weigh it before using it or did the accident happen on the way to the scales - if this happened then you should not be conducted but an investigation should have happened as it should have happened in the abover scenario.

Now as to treatment for the injury I'm not sure about making up hours but would think if you are partially to blame for the accident it may have a bearing on it - lets hope a H&S rep or one of really good IR reps sees your post.
Sorry it was a york not a trolly, and i was pushing it not pulling. It was weighed after the accident and found to be overweight by 25kg. Now how the hell i am going to check everyone just by looking at them :mad when they all come full to top with flats and are heavy any way, and what planet do you live does royal mail ever takes the blame for over weight trays,trollyes, yorks etc. Its like "some one keeps throwing rocks at you and tell you to watch out and if you are unlucky enough to get hit by one they say its your fault you been told to watch out but we are (royallmail) not going to stop throwing rocks at you" :no no . And i did not fill the york. Now can you please give some usefull advice or save the space.
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1) Ask your manager for a referral to ATOS
2) Tell ATOS,(it will be a telephone interview),that you have a series of physio appointments
3) Once you manager has the ATOS report ask him for a copy,(the report will recommend Physio)
4) See if you can get an "out of work" hours appointment(s)
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punjabi wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
punjabi wrote:Hi i had an accident at work pushing overweight trolly. I ask for time to visit physio, i was told to make up for this time even this accident was at work, the union rep agrrees with the maneger decision. Is this right?
Interesting - first question would be why where you pushing an overweight trolley - did you load it, and if you did why did you not arrange for the load to be broken down. If this is what happened then you were primarily responsible for the accident - in fact your lucky not to have been conducted for failing to follow H&S guidelines.

If you did not load it, did you weigh it before using it or did the accident happen on the way to the scales - if this happened then you should not be conducted but an investigation should have happened as it should have happened in the abover scenario.

Now as to treatment for the injury I'm not sure about making up hours but would think if you are partially to blame for the accident it may have a bearing on it - lets hope a H&S rep or one of really good IR reps sees your post.
Sorry it was a york not a trolly, and i was pushing it not pulling. It was weighed after the accident and found to be overweight by 25kg. Now how the hell i am going to check everyone just by looking at them :mad when they all come full to top with flats and are heavy any way, and what planet do you live does royal mail ever takes the blame for over weight trays,trollyes, yorks etc. Its like "some one keeps throwing rocks at you and tell you to watch out and if you are unlucky enough to get hit by one they say its your fault you been told to watch out but we are (royallmail) not going to stop throwing rocks at you" :no no . And i did not fill the york. Now can you please give some usefull advice or save the space.
1st off matey,you did not give the right information!
2nd the poster 'An Admin of the site' gave you 3 options based on the 'wrong' information you gave.
Get a grip!

No doubt your ignorance made you miss this part of his post!!
If you did not load it, did you weigh it before using it or did the accident happen on the way to the scales - if this happened then you should not be conducted but an investigation should have happened as it should have happened in the abover scenario.
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punjabi wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
punjabi wrote:Hi i had an accident at work pushing overweight trolly. I ask for time to visit physio, i was told to make up for this time even this accident was at work, the union rep agrrees with the maneger decision. Is this right?
Interesting - first question would be why where you pushing an overweight trolley - did you load it, and if you did why did you not arrange for the load to be broken down. If this is what happened then you were primarily responsible for the accident - in fact your lucky not to have been conducted for failing to follow H&S guidelines.

If you did not load it, did you weigh it before using it or did the accident happen on the way to the scales - if this happened then you should not be conducted but an investigation should have happened as it should have happened in the abover scenario.

Now as to treatment for the injury I'm not sure about making up hours but would think if you are partially to blame for the accident it may have a bearing on it - lets hope a H&S rep or one of really good IR reps sees your post.
Sorry it was a york not a trolly, and i was pushing it not pulling. It was weighed after the accident and found to be overweight by 25kg. Now how the hell i am going to check everyone just by looking at them :mad when they all come full to top with flats and are heavy any way, and what planet do you live does royal mail ever takes the blame for over weight trays,trollyes, yorks etc. Its like "some one keeps throwing rocks at you and tell you to watch out and if you are unlucky enough to get hit by one they say its your fault you been told to watch out but we are (royallmail) not going to stop throwing rocks at you" :no no . And i did not fill the york. Now can you please give some usefull advice or save the space.
Bloody hell mate you get offended really easily. Did you not notice all the Ifs, and it would have helped if you had put all the details and correct terms in your first post. A trolley is used on delivery so its a logical assumption that you loaded it, now I know its a Yorkie its a different matter entirely. However the advice still stands - you need a decent rep to tell your manager to wind his neck in. Do him a favour though give him all the details you can and the advice and guidance he gives will be a lot better than if you don't.
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punjabi

As you have been unfortunate to have suffered an accident at work then we can only then surmise that an ERICA Report was completed by your DOM or line manager with input from yourself. Furthermore a full investigation should have been instigated by management. You have already informed us that it was found to have been overweight by 25kg. Was this fact duly noted in the ERICA Report and if so should you not be thinking about submitting a claim!

I note though that you have not provided any actual details of how your injury occurred (i.e. did you twist your back).
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