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Sorry, another D2D question!

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Sorry, another D2D question!

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This weeks D2Ds have just arrived tonight, dated 27/12. Friday is my day off so tomorrow I prep and deliver one sixth and the floater does likewise on friday, yes? Will I be expected to finish them off next week? :hmmmm
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Re: Sorry, another D2D question!

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canolman wrote:This weeks D2Ds have just arrived tonight, dated 27/12. Friday is my day off so tomorrow I prep and deliver one sixth and the floater does likewise on friday, yes? Will I be expected to finish them off next week? :hmmmm
We've been told HERE that you divide the D2D by the number of delivery days. So this week there are 3 working days so 33% have to go out each day. As this is now incorporated into our normal workload any problems working them to time are subject to the normal cut-off rules.
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My office has D2D'd dated 6/12/10 and so on, the Manager says they HAVE to be delivered at some point as they are LIVE FIRST CLASS MAIL and we have been paid for them :whistle
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seeker019 wrote:My office has D2D'd dated 6/12/10 and so on, the Manager says they HAVE to be delivered at some point as they are LIVE FIRST CLASS MAIL and we have been paid for them :whistle
Now that is COMPLETELY disgraceful!
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Re: Sorry, another D2D question!

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canolman wrote:This weeks D2Ds have just arrived tonight, dated 27/12. Friday is my day off so tomorrow I prep and deliver one sixth and the floater does likewise on friday, yes? Will I be expected to finish them off next week? :hmmmm
Depends on the office plan of your Dom & rep.
Ask your Dom how he wants them done if your not sure what to do.
If he says all to be done this week take half tomorrow and if that causes you to go over your finishing time check he will pay you docket or cut off on your time.
If he says roll on to next week do just that and you and your floater get them done between you in a manageable way.
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gb93 wrote:
canolman wrote:This weeks D2Ds have just arrived tonight, dated 27/12. Friday is my day off so tomorrow I prep and deliver one sixth and the floater does likewise on friday, yes? Will I be expected to finish them off next week? :hmmmm
Depends on the office plan of your Dom & rep.
Ask your Dom how he wants them done if your not sure what to do.
If he says all to be done this week take half tomorrow and if that causes you to go over your finishing time check he will pay you docket or cut off on your time.
If he says roll on to next week do just that and you and your floater get them done between you in a manageable way.
What about the "National Agreement" which is supposed to cover this! :roll:
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REDLETTER wrote:
gb93 wrote:
canolman wrote:This weeks D2Ds have just arrived tonight, dated 27/12. Friday is my day off so tomorrow I prep and deliver one sixth and the floater does likewise on friday, yes? Will I be expected to finish them off next week? :hmmmm
Depends on the office plan of your Dom & rep.
Ask your Dom how he wants them done if your not sure what to do.
If he says all to be done this week take half tomorrow and if that causes you to go over your finishing time check he will pay you docket or cut off on your time.
If he says roll on to next week do just that and you and your floater get them done between you in a manageable way.
What about the "National Agreement" which is supposed to cover this! :roll:

the national agreement is just as gb93 has said! the national agreement is its up to a local agreement with the office and dom to agree how to manage this situation
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It all depends on what the managers say,no office seems to be the same and there definitely is not a back up plan for them.
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zx135 wrote:
REDLETTER wrote:
gb93 wrote:
canolman wrote:This weeks D2Ds have just arrived tonight, dated 27/12. Friday is my day off so tomorrow I prep and deliver one sixth and the floater does likewise on friday, yes? Will I be expected to finish them off next week? :hmmmm
Depends on the office plan of your Dom & rep.
Ask your Dom how he wants them done if your not sure what to do.
If he says all to be done this week take half tomorrow and if that causes you to go over your finishing time check he will pay you docket or cut off on your time.
If he says roll on to next week do just that and you and your floater get them done between you in a manageable way.
What about the "National Agreement" which is supposed to cover this! :roll:

the national agreement is just as gb93 has said! the national agreement is its up to a local agreement with the office and dom to agree how to manage this situation
Utter cr*p So my office decides that they want to do the "D2Ds" Monday to Friday. Is that in the National/local agreement?. So how does the above situation work then?
It is a watering down of the responsibilities of Senior Union officials down to a level where anything goes so long as the Union Rep and the DOM says its OK.
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REDLETTER wrote:
zx135 wrote:
REDLETTER wrote:
gb93 wrote:
canolman wrote:This weeks D2Ds have just arrived tonight, dated 27/12. Friday is my day off so tomorrow I prep and deliver one sixth and the floater does likewise on friday, yes? Will I be expected to finish them off next week? :hmmmm
Depends on the office plan of your Dom & rep.
Ask your Dom how he wants them done if your not sure what to do.
If he says all to be done this week take half tomorrow and if that causes you to go over your finishing time check he will pay you docket or cut off on your time.
If he says roll on to next week do just that and you and your floater get them done between you in a manageable way.
What about the "National Agreement" which is supposed to cover this! :roll:

the national agreement is just as gb93 has said! the national agreement is its up to a local agreement with the office and dom to agree how to manage this situation
Utter cr*p So my office decides that they want to do the "D2Ds" Monday to Friday. Is that in the National/local agreement?. So how does the above situation work then?
It is a watering down of the responsibilities of Senior Union officials down to a level where anything goes so long as the Union Rep and the DOM says its OK.
Some must live in a DO that is perfect model DO!
well this is exactly what the agreement states:

"The growth ambitions for Door to Door will be managed responsibly, and will be supported in the medium term by the roll out of delivery methods across units nationwide.

In the interim to ensure that D2D workload is covered effectively in line with this agreement, and in advance of units realigning duties through full revision activity to take account of D2D, resourcing of hours associated with the workload linked to D2D will be dealt with through locally agreed interim arrangements and reviewed through the weekly resourcing meetings in all delivery units. To aid the transition, offices that have not deployed delivery methods revisions will have to provide genuine and demonstrable solutions to any weight or volumetric issues.

In addition to the above special attention will need to be given to Bank Holiday weeks through the weekly resourcing meetings, units will also need to have agreed contingency arrangements in place for late arrivals."
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Thanks for your replies lads, I haven't got a clue if we have a 'local agreement' our rep is on holiday but doesn't tell us anything anyway and I doubt my manager understands the local or national agreement!! All I know is that I was swamped with mail today and it now looks like I've got D2Ds and a day to complete them!
Thanks for your help but it looks like I'm on my own tomorrow, this agrement is just to vague!
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Work to your time!!!!!!!!! , after the 3 or 4 day break & its still bad............work to your time!!!!!!!,put the problem back into the doms office,Xmas pressure has finished
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Re: Sorry, another D2D question!

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What is the limit on D2Ds now, is it still supposed to be six items max. as the trouble with carrying over items into the next weeks can mean that with the next lot coming in for delivery, it can and does put the number of contracts being taken out at one time over the limit. Any answers?
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viking wrote:What is the limit on D2Ds now, is it still supposed to be six items max. as the trouble with carrying over items into the next weeks can mean that with the next lot coming in for delivery, it can and does put the number of contracts being taken out at one time over the limit. Any answers?
There is no limit to D2D....there actually never was a limit....only expectations.
That's what removing the cap means.

2. D2D sales are expected to ramp up as follows: 4 items from 7 June, 5 items from 12th July (to be confirmed) 6 items from 3rd January 2011 and thereafter greater volumes as delivery methods roll out continues and D2D automation comes on stream. The actual number of D2D contracts will vary by delivery unit depending on customer demand. To aid transition, offices that have not deployed delivery methods revisions will have to provide genuine and demonstrable solutions to any weight or volumetric issues.
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fishtank wrote:
viking wrote:What is the limit on D2Ds now, is it still supposed to be six items max. as the trouble with carrying over items into the next weeks can mean that with the next lot coming in for delivery, it can and does put the number of contracts being taken out at one time over the limit. Any answers?
There is no limit to D2D....there actually never was a limit....only Great expectations.
That's what removing the cap means.

2. D2D sales are expected to ramp up as follows: 4 items from 7 June, 5 items from 12th July (to be confirmed) 6 items from 3rd January 2011 and thereafter greater volumes as delivery methods roll out continues and D2D automation comes on stream. The actual number of D2D contracts will vary by delivery unit depending on customer demand. To aid transition, offices that have not deployed delivery methods revisions will have to provide genuine and demonstrable solutions to any weight or volumetric issues.
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