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Incorrect overtime payments across the board.

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jaylime
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Incorrect overtime payments across the board.

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After reading numerous posts on here about overtime not being paid I am beginning to wonder if there is some sort of motive for this.I for one have had one correct payslip in two months.How can it be that every office is having the same problem,what is the reason for this.Someone must know why it's happening because it can't be just put down to mistakes,I feel that they are taking the piss and am ready to tell them to stick o/t up there choccy starfish. :arrrghhh
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Screws don't like paying it and hope you'll be able to be fobbed offf with it.
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1974golf
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Re: Incorrect overtime payments across the board.

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im still waiting for a measly 1hr 15 o/t not paid from dec 4th , managers just say your not the only one. what happened to the the great company we used to work for?
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I am beginning to wonder if there is some sort of motive for this.
The general impression i have got is that all the managers are paid bonuses when they keep within their OT targets. These targets seem to be unrealistic for the amount of work that needs to be done so hours are shaved off our pay to keep those further up the chain happy. So basically we are shafted so that managers get bonuses for 'saving' (stealing) money!
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i've lost count of the times i've been underpaid. i mean, how hard is it for them to put into the computer what you have put down in the book for that days overtime....?, its a f***ing farce !!!. i'd love a 1 on 1 with the very top person in charge of royal mail, then again, maybe not, i'd end up killin the f****r...... :evil/mad
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internetguy wrote:i've lost count of the times i've been underpaid. i mean, how hard is it for them to put into the computer what you have put down in the book for that days overtime....?, its a f***ing farce !!!. i'd love a 1 on 1 with the very top person in charge of royal mail, then again, maybe not, i'd end up killin the f****r...... :evil/mad
cause they hope you'll forget what ever overtime you've done for them over xmas period :pray ....one of the reasons why i haven't done any xmas overtime. All of my colleagues never got paid the overtime that they did on sunday over a week ago, another cock up.
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Re: Incorrect overtime payments across the board.

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I made sure I kept a note of every minute I worked over and it's a good job to because last weeks was an hour short. Straight in to the DOM with my payslip and notes and got it added to this weeks.
I'm sure there's plenty of others who didn't bother either checking or chasing up missing hours though, and on the same subject most of the recent starters didn't even know they could claim their lunch if they worked through it.
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Re: Incorrect overtime payments across the board.

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In a previous job, i once had to phone up my manager after every payslip for 8 months before i got paid for the shift i didnt do :shhhhh Every fortnight he'd say he'll sort it for the next payday.

In this job, if i'm ever underpaid its fixed by the following week. Luck of the draw with d.o.m. I always keep a record of what i do & check if i've been paid it
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Re: Incorrect overtime payments across the board.

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why do you think RM did away with dockets,because they know not everyone will keep a record of the o/t they've done,i used to do 10-20 hours o/t a week until the gaffer tried to do me out of 30 mins,never done any since,(no matter how much they beg)no worse off,(if you haven't got it you can't spend it)and my home and social life have improved 100%,also stress levels have been reduced to zero,try it,you know it makes sense.
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Re: Incorrect overtime payments across the board.

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Its done on purpose, that that there is no doubt IMHO. People need to take it to an Employment tribunal (its free and you claim for "unlawful deductions")

An ET is not just for unfair dismissal. You can put an ET claim in even if you are still employed ( not many people are aware of this fact)

You must keep dated records, times and dates ect

Be aware RM may be very vindictive after an ET application, care of your line manger :no no

Before you take it to an ET you will have to normally taken it down the internal grievance procedure first.
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Re: Incorrect overtime payments across the board.

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Every bit of o/t I have ever done is noted in my cwu diary so I always have a record.If I dont get paid then I will not do o/t again .Luckily I have a decent line manager,so I dont expect the situation to arise deliberately, but I do believe managers are under pressure not to pay.
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Re: Incorrect overtime payments across the board.

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I checked my pay slips for the last three weeks after reading about this. Pay dated the 17th has no o/t that I incurred from extended deliveries, but does have my day off and early morning prep o/t in it. Same for the few weeks before too.

Thats a lot of hours and i didn't even bloody notice. Going to start recording my own hours now :|
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Re: Incorrect overtime payments across the board.

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Bazman wrote:I checked my pay slips for the last three weeks after reading about this. Pay dated the 17th has no o/t that I incurred from extended deliveries, but does have my day off and early morning prep o/t in it. Same for the few weeks before too.

Thats a lot of hours and i didn't even bloody notice. Going to start recording my own hours now :|
I think at xmas, o/t is paid a week later than usual.I'm sure someone/somewhere on this site will have the details
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Re: Incorrect overtime payments across the board.

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Wessex wrote:
Bazman wrote:I checked my pay slips for the last three weeks after reading about this. Pay dated the 17th has no o/t that I incurred from extended deliveries, but does have my day off and early morning prep o/t in it. Same for the few weeks before too.

Thats a lot of hours and i didn't even bloody notice. Going to start recording my own hours now :|
I think at xmas, o/t is payed a week later than usual.I'm sure someone/somewhere on this site will have the details
No, the only OT which may be affected is that done on christmas eve. This because it needs to be sent off earlier than normal due to the bank holidays.
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Re: Incorrect overtime payments across the board.

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Pay dates over Christmas 2010

Pay dates and payroll processes remain the same for weekly paid employees, with current week basic pay, assigned allowances and previous week’s additional hours and ad hoc adjustments paid each Friday. Due to the impact of bank / public holidays on payroll operations, the following arrangements apply:

Weekly-Paid Contracted Employees

w/c 6th December (pay date Friday 10th December)
Regular Pay (Basic & assigned allowances)
Overtime / SA / Ad hoc allowances performed w/c 29th November

w/c 13th December (pay date Friday 17th December)
Regular Pay (Basic & assigned allowances)
Overtime / SA / Ad hoc allowances performed w/c 6th December
Christmas Supplement

w/c 20 th December (pay date Friday 24th December)
Regular Pay (Basic & assigned allowances)
Overtime / SA / Ad hoc allowances performed w/c 13th December

w/c 27th December (pay date Friday 31st December)
Regular Pay (Basic & assigned allowances)
Overtime / SA / Ad hoc allowances performed w/c 20 th December

w/c 3rd January 2011 (pay date Friday 7th January 2011)
Regular Pay (Basic & assigned allowances)
Overtime / SA / Ad hoc allowances performed w/c 27th December

w/c 10th January 2011 (pay date Friday 14th January 2011)
Regular Pay (Basic & assigned allowances)
Overtime / SA / Ad hoc allowances performed w/c 3rd January
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.